any parents here?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by illusion34, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. illusion34

    illusion34 Member

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    ok cool, im all worreid ima go mental or schizo now lol
     
  2. Socratez

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    Hey, right on.. that is awesome man... Law school eh... I hear a lot of people that go through Philosophy take that route for some reason... I did a bit of p back in univeristy.. (both logic and some estern religons)... I found it amazing.. and I can kinda see how it fits into that field of law... esp logic (you know, thats kinda like boolean math)...

    good luck :) - hey, we all might need ya some day :)
    soc
     
  3. illusion34

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    ok back on topic?
     
  4. SaintStephen

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    You should not by looking for reasons why you shouldn't smoke salvia. You should be looking for reasons to smoke it.

    If your reason is purely to get really fucked up or out of boredom then you probably shouldn't smoke it. It will probably be unpleasant.

    If your reason is for better understanding reality or spiritual enlightenment then by all means go for it.

    Age has NOTHING to do with it.

    Maturity and respect have EVERYTHING to do with it.

    Just because you can't find a reason why you shouldn't smoke it doesn't mean you should go ahead and smoke it.
     
  5. drumminmama

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    wise words! for a screen name and site I respect.

    at 14 (and my son is 14) I would say light, not habitual use of marijuana is probably not great, but not bad.
    tobacco, is pointless as in its american/Western form it has no value to the body or spirit. Not worth getting into at all, becomes and expensive stinky habit by which you will be judged.

    Salvia needs some more life experience (as do other psychedelics.the kids I know who started at 9, or 12, or even 14 depending on experiences in life, are less likely to understand the relevatory side.)

    Ya need more pieces to start solving the puzzle!
     
  6. shockseventyfour

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    uhh well i took salvia when i was 14 and it really wasnt bad. Ok all I did was a few 5x experiences and one 10x experience, but I remeber it being very peaceful and spiritual. Just because somebody isn't old doesn't mean they aren't able to do certain drugs. I have not smoked it in a LONG time (the 10x trip was my last one) because I have experienced wonderful things with it, but I don't really feel like spending time/money on it anymore. dont make 1 salvia hit sound like it will screw up your life.
     
  7. cabbagehead

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    so how old are you now?

    we aren't making it sound like it will, we making it sound like it COULD.

    he asked a question about whether and why his folks could/would get mad. we're answering it, based on what we know as adults. of course it won't kill him, but that isn't the point. the point is that it is a dangerous drug, and has effects that aren't predictable for anyone, regardless of age, much less for someone whose brain is still developing.
     
  8. andcrs2

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    Better pot than booze.

    Cigs?
    They decided no (possibly after living w/my smoke).
     
  9. RELAYER

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    I'm a parent now, and I think it depends on my son's future personality. I was raised by my mom who just never talked about drugs, and when i visited my dad he didnt seem to care. But my girlfriend smokes with her dad, and she was raised a lot better than i was, so i think it's all about what kind of kid you have. Some are ready to try stuff that others are not, i guess.
     
  10. mr.morrison

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    you shouldnt judge whether you shuld do a drug on age, but on maturity. this might sound a bit conseted but i am probably about as mature as most 17 year olds. not to be cocky but im beginning to notice how immature 15 and 16 year olds are. I still hvant done shrooms. want to but havnt. the question is. are you mature enough?
     
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    ive noticed that since getting into psychedelics I've become a much more thoughtful deep thinking person and a certain degree of maturity has come with it. Oddly enough now as a result of it i find most people my age just childish and frivolous and much prefer the company of poeple a couple of years older than myself.
     
  12. cabbagehead

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    I'm sure you are the first teenager that has ever written this sentence before. Oh, wait, no you aren't. EVERY TEENAGER IN EXISTENCE THINKS THIS.

    thanks for proving our point.
    :)
     
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    Every teenager doesn't think like this - of that I'm certain - but I remember myself being just like that. When I was like fourteen all my friends used to be three years older than me ;-)
     
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    Hey, I'm 14... I smoke weed a lot, and I think my dad has adopted a great outlook on it--He can't control it, and the more he tries to control it the less he'll hear about it, so instead he asks me to always be honest with him, never steal from his stash, and try to follow his advice. He lets me know when he thinks I'm smoking too much. It's kind of a trade off--I don't hide my smoking from him, as long as he doesn't control it.
     
  15. the music isnt' over

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    I think my dad knows buds better for me than drinking,
    i used to just be a little stupid whiskey drunk guy,
    im not sure if he knows i smoke instead now,
    but i think he knows the illegalness of it is stupid compared tobacco and alco,
    but my mum is just raised so dahm fucking stupid,
    she doesnt know anything about drugs,
    she thought cannabis and marijuana were different drugs,
    yet she tries to say how bad bud is,
    and i dont think my dad can say anything else because of her.
    sorry if this makes hardly any sense
     
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    oh fuck,i just was abotu to write a wise response for all ages,, but omg... my bro just madea super bong through cold water wit hice... it is awsome... omg.. cant read any response without a smile <3... omg i did it !! :))) have a nice day. <3 Ha.... =)))
     
  17. silenceinc

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    if i would give advice to young kids ... wait as long as you can - you won't miss out on anything ... 14 is young Illusion - very young imo ... wait a fex more years and start with mushrooms - salvia is a crazy experience.
     
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    Some of you are missing the point, and I have an inkling it's the young'uns here that are telling us not to base our positions on age, but rather to do it on maturity. The point being missed here is that age is tied to maturity. Sure there are kids who are far more mature than their age-counterparts (me being one of them, and trust me, those of us who are genuinely much more mature than our age group know that it's not easy to deal with and not always a blessing), but that's not the norm.

    ONE person on here has mentioned that the age where the brain has finally finished developing is 25, and numerous doctors and the like have said this. Maybe 14 year olds can handle occasional pot smoking (I don't believe they can) but it's more than just the physical nature of it. It's the environment that pot smoking is a part of. The kids I've met at school that smoked when they were 14 are the kids that smoke instead of going to class and party every night of the week. So maybe they're okay physically, but what are they doing for their lives? Nothing. Not to mention that all those kids mentioned are also into other drugs.

    I don't even understand why someone so young would want to do something so crazy. A 14 year olds problems are not that deep that you should have to use something so intense to get anything out of it. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying that if you don't have problems you shouldn't use psychhedelics, but they do have a purpose - deeper understanding. A 14 year old doesn't even have basic understanding of his or her environment - why subject yourself to something that's that far beyond your realm?

    Plus, as someone else mentioned, it's your live's experiences that make a trip what it is. Dealing with problems and obstacles is what makes you more mature and what (in my opinion) makes a trip good or bad. More accurately, the ability to prevent a bad trip comes from one's coping ability, something that a 14 doesn't have a full grasp over.

    Going on how I was raised, I would not get upset about my child smoking pot under certain situations. When my parents caught me, my mom got pissed but my dad kept his cool. Same thing had happened when my parents caught me drinking (well, my brother ratted me out, but whatever) only my mom was less mad. If I, as a parent, encountered my situation I would not be terribly upset - a student in good standing, plans to attend college, has a job, doesn't cause problems. However, if my child were getting poor grades and skipping school and had no aspirations for the rest of his life but to work at a fast food place and do nothing the rest of his life - I'd make sure I kicked that kid's ass into gear. However, that's as of I'd say about junior year in high school. Before that, I'd rule it out as an option and my child would be reprimanded (not grounded, no priveleges taken away, but I would take any bowls or whatever and the stash) because that's just too young to weigh out all the consequences.
     
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