Anyone being harassed, followed, or annoyed 24/7. Might just be Gang Stalking.

It seems from what I have read it's larger urban centers, however small towns do have problems also. In the US large cities like New York and L.A. have it pretty prevalent.

In Canada it's cities like Toronto.

England I have no specific stats for.

Korea has it so prevelent I the article said something like 1 in 10 had been affected by what they are calling cyber violence, but as you will see in the article this is what we are refering to.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/14/news/korea.php

I have heard reports of this in India, China and Japan. Also European countries, but again I don't have stats for them.

 

Oh but you do! according to your raven1.net website its 3% of British people Come on dont tell me you dont know that place - you talk of it in other posts on the net ! ABOUT 1,800,000 - wouldnt we have heard about that on the news - Britain is so small if a mouse farts its in the headlines the next day FFS. Thats more than the number of people in any one of our cities outside of london or Birmingham. This idiotic peice of crap is what youre pushing and I will show in this post you are a fascist selling an idiot brand of fascism

Code:

www.raven1.net/

SO DONT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE THIS IS A SALES TECHNIQUE NOTHING MORE - Fear is a big and powerful sales technique - if I use inflamatory language its because people like you are that stupid you believe everyone will fall for it but just to show not everyone is fooled
http://thearidsite.tripod.com/AR051124.HTM#Gangstalking

my investigation is already leading me to evidence that you and others promoting this fantasy are just as insipid as what you claim is "gangstalking". I am beginning to find out that you and others that infiltrate forums work in teams to promote this crap till the forum is corrupted by you And that YOU ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT OPPONENTS
In the forums that they attack you in - by very stupid tactics
I have spent 24 hours looking into you and your HA ! movement -
Youre a bunch of nobodies - dangerous nobodies that use people for your own gain
http://thearidsite.tripod.com/AR051124.HTM#Gangstalking

May as well tell us your solution now - come on whats your politics - whats your solution ? Now youre outed you may as well start spouting the shit you teach like you do in all those other forums oh and dont forget to bring in the others that normally support you that will tell us we need you
Lets hope hipforums doesnt get swamped and eaten up by these morons from the far right like other forums have been -
So this peice of paranoid idiotic crap is at the bottom of it

Code:

www.raven1.net/

BAWOUHA HA HA HA HA !!! these people are fuckin IDIOTS BUWOUHAAAAAAAR HA HA HA
simple whois enquiries lead me to network solutions - a company that hosts
MANY sites that other ISP refuse to host such as spammers, fascists,etc
the main registrant of "gangstalker" sites is here" (about 80% are networks solutions hosted with about 60-70% under theses credentials)
go here and type in raven1.net
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp
you might want to track that address on google and the sites its
relevent to
google search cumberland avenue
the above is a serach on the registrant address that will link it to other sites the registrant owns
BTW network solutions - in contravention of IANA rules does not allow direct whois lookups because that many people complain about their websites and check the details throiugh whois - that they are swamped by it and freely admit that they are
go here - find out who raven1.net site links to and what they are about by clicking the domain names on the picture that appears in the webpage
positive linksites (see the big picture) then type those addresses into a browser and tell me - are they lunatics and fascist lunatics or not?
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/raven1.net?ref=safe&aff_id=0

a list of sites that connected to them that I found within 1 hour by googling it, all owned by the delusional, self centred and egomaniac paranoids that own raven1.net - FASCIST FUCKERS !!!
have a look at their noble realms antijewish site

Code:

forum.noblerealms.org/viewforum.php?id=5

Code:

                multistalkervictims.org 
                stopcovertwar.com 
                controlledamerica.itgo.com/custom2.html 
                wallytribe.com 
                controlledamerica.itgo.com/favorite_links.html
                eharassment.ca 
                stopcovertwar.com
               groups.yahoo.com/group/Cause_Stalking/
               groups.yahoo.com/group/gangstalking
               groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronic_Violence
               gangstalking.ca 
               raven1.net 
               wallywood.org 
               rich-essence.com
               gatago.com/alt/clearing/avatar/24085311.html
               mindcontrolforums.com/v/les-dove1.htm
               

I AINT CALLED COLUMBO FOR NOTHING
One thing fascists dont have is a brain - never forget that !!!

 

Things like this do happen to people. Check out history of "operation freakout". Members of Scientology used tactics very similar to those of gangstalking on Paulette Cooper, whom had written a book bashing scientology. The documented plans were uncovered in an unrelated FBI raid of a scientology headquarters. The scientologists had planned to all sorts of stuff to drive Paulette Cooper crazy and then have her locked up in either a mental institution or jail, thereby discreditting her and her book. Organizations have done this before, but how widespread it is, I don't know.

 

well Columbo, I can be gullible. But I think of it this way, lets ignore this post a second:

I mean, if one person can stalk another...its a pretty simple concept to simply add a few more stalkers to the mix...this is basically multiple stalking than. multiple stalkers work in shifts to cover 24/7 shifts. Its not all to far fetched. maybe not likely but I would not doubt it.

I am still on the fence on this one, overall.

 

I cant believe it I just did an entire 24 hour research to tell you these people are fascists thats what theyre selling - theyre using very insidious techniques to silence opposition and to promote their story - HA HA HA - they are the only ones talking about the subject - dont you get it - go join them then huh ? HA HA HA !
look up who registered all the sites that talk about this - its mainly one person in canada and more than that its about the fact that they are largely uneducated and disatisfied people with a lot of time and not much to say - except that they hate anyone thats not a fascist.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT GANGSTALKING _ NO-ONE ELSE except one person on the indymedia site

Do some research dont just accept what these people say they must think people are idiots
try godlikeproductions.com they are the very same type of people lovely little no-brainers with a penchant for fascism and conspiracy theory

As far as this antigangstalking group goes
I believe thee are about 16 people in their group at a maximum - possibly as few as 4 but my research is almost at an end as there is not much point they are losers of the worst kind and if necessary I will laugh them out of existence
read post #22 follow the links - tell me am I wrong? NO !!!

 

I am not saying this is true - I am saying the concept of multiple stalkings is possible - seperate from this post.

 

I have not seen or heard anyone mention the word fascist on this issue until Columbo mentioned it.

At least these people are talking about the issue and what can be done about it. There are alot of people in the world who have been victimized by this type of stalking technique. I think it's good that someone is speaking out about it.

 

HA HA HA BWOUHAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA
Jeez FFS you can lead a horse to water but goddamn you cant make it think
VISIT THEIR WEBSITES
AAH WHATS THE FRIGGIN POINT waah ha ha ha get on with it start arguing and debating and agreeing with them and when your only conversation at hip forums is about jews and mexicans - think back to the good old days before these antigangstalkers told you jews were responsible for controlling your mind
I happen to believe theres something good about hip forums and something stinks about these gangstalker sites THATS WHY I DID THE RESEARCH !!!!!
http://www.indymedia.org/it/2005/06/873123.shtml

DUH !
WELL GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF _ DO THE FRIGGIN RESEARCH
_________________________________________

 

Getting a bit heated up about it aren't you, Columbo?

 

yah a bit heated. don't know who its directed at either. all I was saying is, nothings impossible. one person stalks, so many could stalk..maybe not exactly like this thread lays it out..ahh whats the use.

 

double post

 

Hi Columbo.

I think you have to understand that each individual webmaster has their own site and their own opinions. Since you have posted nothing related to me or my sites, I can not comment. I can only comment on my own sites, and things that I have done research on, or currently am doing research on.


Hi dd3stp233.

Do you have a link for this? As part of the Gangstalking history section on my site, I want to do research on cults as well. I understand that cults use similar methods to their members to punish them or keep them in line. If you have a link or references that would be great.

Hi Carlfloydfan.

The only thing is that it's more than a few others. It's like a stalking network. It's pretty out there. For someone who has never been stalked before, one would be bad enough, but this is so hard to conceptualise, even when you are living it.

If you want to know a bit more you can visit here.
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/United/index.php/Main/Stories

You can share the info with others http://www.Gangstalkingworld.com/Handbook/Gangstalkinghandbook2.exe

This has to be talked about in a rational manner. This is happening to many people, not just one person in Canada. However I believe the site that has been referred to is information from Eleanor White a 64 year old retired engineer. She has done a lot of research on gang stalking, but again she speaks for herself and her site.

Gang Stalking is happening and it's a serious social issue, that has to be exposed. Too many people are taking their lives needlessly because they can't find help. Other are becoming destitute, homeless, jobless. Still others are having break downs. Just like workplace mobbing, bullying, and stalking this has to get exposed in the open. However it will only happen if we are allowed to have rational and open discussions about the topic.

I don't think I have posted anything outside the realm of anyone's understanding or perception. I also think the postings were done in a suitable manner that did not require are call for the inflammatory postings I have seen from at least one source.
I hope we can keep this thread going and talk about why this happens, but maybe also brain Storm to try to get this stop. This is starting to happen in more and more countries and if more is not done to stop it, then more people will be devastated by this.

 

Brainstorming ideas is a good plan. The best thing to do is to keep talking about the problem to raise awareness.

 

We both KNOW thats bullshit - have you never heard of the whois record? Not heard of IANA and the site registry ? Its a document that must be filled out by you and the hosting company - now are you telling me that some of these webmasters have forged that document and given the exact same address - because if they have that woul contravene the terms of service - also wouldnt it seem strange that they chose the same name and address?

I've seen what you fuckers have done at other forums

I will write and ask people who have GREAT prestige amongst those interested in the integrity and security of the internet what they think. We will see. And in your support groups you just keep on keepin on at makin people into victims - thats what you do best

Yeah well I've always been an oponent of fascism and a very outspoken one at that - these people stink of it and if you had any sense or integrity you'd stop defending them
oh and youre not sure who its directed at - well obviously these people who are advocating those gangstalking sites as being places that are worthy of visiting and being indformational is who I direct my comments at -
I cannot see what information there is in the lie that whichever group these fascists are against are controlling your mind. HA HA HA - What a load of crap
why dont you join their group an see for yourself if you havent already ?

(edited in later after full investigation)
The very heart of their claim is this: There are pople who gangstalk others and they are
jews, gentiles, - blacks people from allwalks of life etc etc some of them wear swastikas - EVEN THOUGH THEYRE JEWS - how could this be?
well without going through their long and boring story - it turns out these people are marxists hassling good people like the antigangstalkers who are advocating only the death of millions of people. I mean come on - nazis are people too HUH ? der - nowdja geddit huh ? huh? AND THE MARXIST DRESS AS NAZIS TO DISCREDIT THE RIGHT WING !!!! hahahahaha BAWOUHAHAHA HAAAAAR HAAAAAR HA HA HA ! and... an.. and... theyre gangstalking the right wing BAAAAWAAAAHAAA HA HA HA HA WOUHAAAAA HA HA HA !!
ANYTHING MORE RIGHT WING THAN GEORGE BUSH THAT IS mawawawa HAAAAAAAAAAA HAHA HA ! (oh lumme tears o laughter down my face ) more right wing ha ha ha
than GW Marx (I meant "Bush") aaawwwwaaahhh hahaha

and now I'll butt out and leave you too it
you wont get me back in this thread
ha ha ha ha its its its haaaah too stupid for words waaaaaaa......

(shakes head laughing his ass off and rolling on the floor - then exits LEFT)

 

I think the information posting by me in this thread has been very clear. The propaganda being posting in this thread by certain person that shall be unnamed has nothing to do with me.

I can speak for myself and my websites only. I can not speak for other webmasters and I choose not to. I am sure on my site it says that gang stalking is similar to workplace mobbing, and organized stalking, but it takes place outside in the targets community.

The International Hearld Tribune a well respected International paper has done a story on this to let people know how bad the problem is in Korea. The problem is almost as bad here except it's not being reported. I really don't know what's so hard to understand about that?

The question that I would have is how to bring public awareness to the issue of gang stalking? Recently we had scientists, authours and other speakers at the first international day to bring awareness to this, it's a good step, but it's a small step towards getting this exposed.

This does need to be exposed because people are killing themselves over this and still having their lives ruined beyond repair.

 

Actually I'm staying out of it - for anyone who wants to know the truth I have provided enough links to give you a fair idea of where to start investigating this morbid little group of cheap nazis called anti-gangstalkers

except to say that anyone that wants to really investigate it should look here and read this thread where you will see exactly what these people think from advice on who recruits the gangstalkers (which is a fairly dubious site in itself) to where these people (the anti gangstalkers) come from and the National Socialist Party of Canada
http://www.sbindymedia.org/newswire/display/1278/index.php
always the same few people isnt it as all those other sites
I like your friends on this site - theyre so cute arent they
http://ctvbb.insinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6081&page=1&pp=10

Hmmm nice series of posts by you as well - do I have to take off my rose tinted liberalist specs to understand them or can I still see that you are pro christian - pro- white and anti- quite a lote else
http://ctvbb.insinc.com/forums/search.php?searchid=555085&pp=25&page=2
and say hi - to martin next -time - ya know guy calls himself Martin Boorman
And Tha ... Thats all folks

RRRRR......REALLY !

 

While checking my referrer log I found the discussion quite riveting here. So, in order to throw my hat into the ring (special thanks to Columbo for the links) here's my response:

I sincerely doubt that.

First, what propaganda? Certainly you can quote the statements made and then refute them with some verifiable facts. Only then can the veracity of the statements made be ascertained.

Secondly, would the name of "certain person that shall be unnamed" be Columbo? The reason why I ask is that it's awfully cowardly of you to make accusations without mentioning the target of those accusations. It's as if some evil were to occur if you were to mention Columbo's name.

So it also appears your actions betray a hint of superstition. As in, "Maybe Columbo will go away if I don't mention his name."

The fact is that there are laws already on the books which are currently being enforced for stalkings (check your local penal codes). Unfortunately, the anti-gangstalking movement (or, if you will, a gang of its own kind) has made its agoraphobic nonsense a facet of right-wing doctrine. After all, of course people are going to look askance and maybe giggle at such ludricrious claims made without evidence by such irrational people.

Would you like to know why it's not being reported where you are?

Because of the nature of the source, that's why! And, of course, any good journalist worth their salt (a shrinking minority, I'm afraid) who investigates would like to see some real-world examples (especially convictions) of so-called "gangstalkers" and double-blind tests of their "equipment" used in "mind control".

Since I have recovered from being in a cult myself, there's no mystery to me as to what "mind control" is. I highly recommend Steven Hassan's "Combatting Cult Mind Control" which sums up how one can rise to the challenge, liberate themselves and free their minds from "mind control". I consider "mind control" to be a form of addiction (ambivalence) itself.

I consider it, on the surface, the so-called anti-gangstalking movement an overglorified echo chamber; a veritable laughingstock. Internally, it's nothing more than an extremely virulent form of right-wingnutism known as the militia movement, with some Christian reconstructionists and neo-Nazis thrown in for Fairness and Balance. Since they won't listen to reason, much less examine their own claims, that makes them extremely dangerous.

I'd like to show me the "scientific" evidence by these authors. Certainly, mainstream debunkers such as Adam & Jamie on The Discovery Channel's "Mythbusters" and Penn & Teller on Showtime's "Bullshit!" couldn't be in on the joke. Right? ;->

Anyhoo, I examined the evidence for myself. And, given what I know in the IT and pharmesutical biz as well as addiction recovery and as being an active cult infiltrator, the so-called "anti-gangstalking" movement is it's own gang of stalkers. It's a sick joke, a ruse and ultimately a fraud. My advice is simply a restatement of "caveat emptor" and to not blindly follow that bunch of lemmings over the cliff.

Y'all can SCREAM that gangstalking is real but truth is never arrived by consensus or a show of hands. Which is why I wrote those few articles on the subject upon my website (again, thanks Columbo for the links). And yes, there is someone who does speak for such pages:

Me! ;->

I know. I'm sure with the constant laughter that's perceived by them to be enveloping their own soul to the point of suffocation, my advice is as simple as I tell those who have problems with alcohol and other drugs:

KNOCK IT OFF!

I'll be happy to oblige in exposing this matter further. I need the entertainment for I don't watch much television outside the genre of shows I gave examples of above (I prefer '70s cinema myself).

Anyhow, Columbo did a bang-up job at exposing the right-wing side of things within that cult. And now I have a new website to play with (siteadvisor.com) in order to check website affiliations. ;->

Be well and live well one LIFETIME at a time, everyone!

 

I'm not gettin' into an opinion battle here, so I'm not gonna read this whole thread. But I read enough to know that gangstalking or whatever you want to call it is real. It's happening here. The "gang" is the State police. The "targets" are anybody who might profile out as being anything other than an "all-american" sheep. Our entire neighborhood is being targeted. Intimidation tactics, illegal searches, constant police presence (out in the sticks too) are the order of the day. Anyone "caught" doing anything even remotely illegal is subject to defamation of character by extreme exaggeration in the media. Even just to be pulled over for something simple like a tail light out can get you put on "the list". I'm not so sure our house is not bugged. Too many wierd coincidences. The police have actually been caught inside some folks houses when there is no one home. And little "mindgame" pieces of evidence left to let you know that they have been there. We all have been discussing the fact that we are actually living in a "prisoner of war" situation, with the State Police as the enemies. And because these guys ARE the power, there is no one to go to about it for help.

 

My first thought is to buy a shotgun and pretend like you are not home. Of course lawyers fee's might get ya-lol.
My second thought is that you have to find a way to set those fuckers up. Video survellence maybe?
Perhaps the media could help, though obviously not anywhere near your little town.
Pisses me off to no end. I wish I could do something.

 

So why even post then if you don't know what you're talking about?

Thus, the "opinion battle" (y'know, the thing you didn't want to get into) begins. Flippity flippity...floppity floppity. ;->

Certainly, you have caught them (TINT) in the act, no? Digital A/V technology is well within the economic grasp of most American citizens. However, learning how to use the technology and publishing with it requires practice and patience.

And most Americans within your God-ridden society are weaned on the fast food junk culture of instant gratification. And, sadly, fail to communicate their ideas effectively. Thus, whatever narrative they hoped to convey blows up in their faces.

Can you provide examples? Certainly you can provide examples why you're a "victim".

Where do you live? I just need to run through the census and NCJRS data. ;->

Anyhow, the corporate-owned and corporate-subsidized mass media lost any pretense of journalistic credibility long ago. Which is why I don't watch much television. I especially don't watch state-sponsored propaganda labeled as "news".

It's just a side effect of an overtly hedonistic fast food nation of perpetual victimhood; a victimocracy instead of a democracy. Of perpetual dependence instad of independence. Of slavery instead of freedom.

Get me a copy of that list. I'll be very unhappy if I'm not on it.

Some common sense: There are no bugs (until you find them, of course) and of course coincidences are weird: They just happen. There's no deeper meaning other than what you provide outside of the facts.

Who are these "some folks"? I prefer something more concrete than broad generalizations.

Maybe you just misplaced some things or some of the stuff online is just purely fabricated for the sake of advancing a ficticious storyline. Humans make mistakes, too. And there are humans who take advantage of others' weaknesses.

Gotta love human nature. ;->

Or maybe you're just paranoid. It's not them (TINT) who is out to get you. It's your own idle mind. And, if I were to use my talents for evil instead of good, I could make a killing in urban legend and conspiratorial nonsense.

I don't simply because something gets in the way:

My moral conscience!

I'd rather tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but. And, if something sounds too good to be true it's probably not. I find that telling lies hurts far more people in the long term and the truth, while not always pretty, is a pretty good innoculant against falsehood.

After all, the burden of proof ultimately falls upon the person making the claims. And so far the so-called "anti-gangstalking" movement has failed.

Maybe instead of blaming someone else for your problems you should take charge for once in your life and realize that it's all nonsense. You'll feel a sharp sting as you excise that victim mentality for your own moral conscience but it'll be worth it for the rest of your life.

Too blunt? Well, the truth is like that. Why should anyone sugarcoat that? BTW, the anti-gangstalking movement is a militant right-wing cult of paranoia (THERE, I said it here).