Anyone want to "swap bodies?"

i would think that biologically this would be impossible because each individual has different pasterns of neural networks in different parts of the body, for example, a guitar player has much more neural development in the parts of the brain that control fine hand movements and also parts that deal with keeping rhythm.

 

Current model is not bad but still has issues. I want to shallowly say that yes, I'd trade for a 26 year old body, even though it's not my gender. LOL! I've astral projected on Pharmahuasca and launched out of my body on Salvia, N,N, DMT and 5-meo-DMT. Have yet to meet anyone I can recognize (I've tried a number of experiences with other people launching.) in hyperspace.

 

I'm intrigued. It would solve a lot of philosophical questions and fully disprove and debunk solipsism as a philosophical position, at least for the individuals who do it. I think it could very well be possible. We all have separate, conscious currents, of some kind, that our physical bodies channel, and if there was a way to change whatever it was these currents are, I could see it. Since you would have the other persons memories, though, even if it happened, I don't know if you would even know it happened or that you lived as the other person before. Really, the person you were 10 years ago could be living as someone else. The memories we have of the person we were 10 years ago is just that, a symbolic or abstract memory. The actual place in the cosmos that produced that conscious moment from a decade ago that the memories are based off of could be embodied by a new person now. It depends on what symbolic and abstract memories are too. Are they encoded completely in your brain cells, or is there an information dome, as some have suggested, that the brain acts as an antenna to? If its anything like that, wtf is the information exactly. Is it completely arbitrary, or are you actually tied to those memories and past actions in a more tangible way, as past life recall implies. Its trippy to think about. For that matter what is the more obvious information we channel? What are these photons that diffract through our eyes and get converted into electrons, and why to we feel it? Its all very mysterious. I'd like to hear how this all goes with your experiment.

 

yeah how does this work exactly ?

 

so, what, do we follow the tree of life all the way up and switch there?

 

OP, predictably, disappeared years ago, without ever reporting back. Maybe he found a new body.

I don't believe it for a second, but I'd totally be down to try.

 

That's because consciousness is a physical phenomena. A physical phenomena that can understand itself, but nonetheless, it's all chemistry and physics.

 

Only a complete lunatic or a total masochist would want to swap bodies with me, so even if it were physically possible, it would never happen for me. lol

 

Wow! I vaguely recall having started this thread as twilight star during 2006.

Would anyone be interested in continuing this thread with me? The many positive and open-minded responses in which I've received thus far indicate a fervent need to further commence the communications within this thread. Quite frankly, I'm rather astonished by these replies.... Namaste.

 

False! Science has not proven what you ascertained unto. And furthermore, Western science cannot disprove the existence of "spirit" or the non-locality of the higher consciousness principle.

The true consciousness principle is spiritual; as one's true mind and consciousness principle exist outside of the brain of one's physical body, within the outer-aura that surrounds one's physical vehicle.

Best of regards.

Well?

 

Interesting reply. I'm uncertain as to how I should respond to your statements; perhaps you're being too hard on yourself. Blessings.

 

I just had to throw in my .02 here - I think it is possible AND I think is is bullshit - in that it is a bad bad bad idea. period.

We should not use gifts and/or strengths to just see what if...most especially if it could have dangerous or questionable results and involves someone besides our own dumb-asses.

 

Fascinating response! In other words, two could enter a simultaneous out-of-body state together and thus coalesce in shifting to even higher spiritual vibrations with one another. Blessings and thanks for the message.

 

Thanks for the reply.

Check out chapter 7 of the 777 V.T.T.S.A. manuscript:

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For free to join if you wish.

Kind regards.

Post Script: Perhaps the following information will help to further elucidate upon your question? In order to better derive a more clarified understanding of the proceeding text, you are promptly advised to study Theosophical related terminologies before commencing further.

The astral-umbilical-cord versus the spiritual-consciousness-thread: The spiritual-consciousness-thread, otherwise called the golden Sutratma thread, should NOT be confused with the astral-umbilical-cord, although a few Authors of the Classical Theosophical texts have confused the two cord phenomena as being the same, surmising that the astral umbilical cord does not exist. Think of the astral cord as merely a prana circuit that links the nervous system of the physical vehicle and its ethereal double to correspondent near central region of the astral body. On the other hand, the Sutratma thread simply serves as the spiritual consciousness circuit that conduits spiritual prana from the source of Atma, which channels through the casual spirit body and into the crowns of the mental and astral spirit-bodies; with its final destination intermittently linking the spiritual-consciousness-thread to resonant cohesion with the spiritual-consciousness-thread-ground, to the center of the brain of the physical body.

The spiritual-consciousness-thread; or the golden Sutratma thread: This is an energetic prana-circuit through which the spiritual-mind or the consciousness-principle of one’s causal spirit-self is channeled to a state of resonant magnetism with the center of the brain of the physical body. One’s spiritual mind is grounded to the brain of the physical vehicle by means of Fohat-electricity mingled prana. The mind of the incarnate-spirit channeled along one’s spiritual-consciousness-thread from the causal-spirit-vibrations, and thusly interpenetrates each of the crown epicenters of the lesser energy veils of one’s subtle spirit embodiments. Hence, the spiritual Sutratma circuit threads one’s spiritual ego through the permanent atom of one’s lesser-mind epicenter, and thereby continues to thread downwards, threading through the astral-crown force-center; and finally, this circuit then thread through the ethereal-crown chakra force-center-inlet, to which one’s spiritual-mind electromagnetically binds to the center of the spiritual-consciousness-thread-ground of the physical-vehicle; from whence one’s spiritual consciousness-thread is filtered thereby. Thusly, relaying upon the premise that one’s spiritual crown force-center dislocates from the “crown force-center-inlets” of one’s physical and ethereal spirit-embodiments during the occurrences of out-of-body experiences.

Reiterated, sustained electromagnetic resonance is clearly that phenomenon which grounds the spiritual-consciousness-thread to a state of energetic cohesion with the consciousness-thread-ground. So, interfering with, inhibiting or otherwise altering the status of this electro-cohesive bridge of energy that binds one’s spiritual mind to the brain of the physical body can potentially result in un-grounding, and thereby freeing, one’s spiritual-consciousness-thread from its grounded state of resonant cohesion with the energetic magnetism that adheres it to the filtration processes of the brain and the atomic-shield of the ethereal Aura; thereby releasing one’s spiritual crown force-center with one’s astral spirit-body. Much confusion has arisen within the writings of classical esoteric literature concerning the “astral-umbilical-cord” and the “golden-Sutratma-thread;” these are two separate cord phenomena in which demand individual attention.

The spiritual-consciousness-thread-ground; or the spiritual-consciousness-thread-filter: The brain of the physical vehicle, or the spiritual-consciousness-thread-ground, filters the conscious mind of the incarnate spirit. The brain is merely a biological, electromagnetically charged artificial-database or inventory in which stores residual imprints of vibrations relating to the thought related patterns, emotional impulses, and most sensory perceptions of the incarnate spirit-entity. One’s spiritual/ casual mind and Sutratma-consciousness-thread are thus electromagnetically intergraded through the inter-face parameters of a biologically programmed self image, through the filtration process of the brain. Fascinatingly, the consciousness-filtration capacity of the spiritual-consciousness-thread-ground literally entrances, hypnotizes and programs the lower mind of the incarnate spirit, which it so relentlessly grounds. Thusly, the brain hijacks the incarnate spirit-entity’s true sense of conscious identity as a sentient being; for it is the brain that actually takes possession of the incarnate spirit, and it is not so much that the spiritual entity is really in possession of the physical body.
Mental vibrations from one’s higher, causal mind are routinely interrupted, and thus replaced by an artificially generated counterfeit of “lower self effigy”, as the result of the consciousness-thread filtration process of the security system functions between the ethereal and physical brains. The spiritual-consciousness-thread-ground, in succinct unison with the astral-shield of the ethereal aura, relentlessly inhibits and over-rides the actual consciousness principle of the embodied spirit-entity; and in such a way that one’s filtered mind resultantly becomes un-attuned to perceiving the majority of all psychic sensory transmissions from beyond the denser vibration-veil of the mental-grounding filtration process. In other words, conscious, unadulterated receptions of those vibrations from one’s higher, causal-spirit consciousness principle are converted into sub-conscious, adulterated frequency transmissions by the spiritual-consciousness-filter/ brain. Hence, one’s perception of ordinary reality, or ordinary consciousness, is not at all the substance of true reality, but is rather an altered state of consciousness. Perceiving from through the darkened shades of the spiritual-consciousness-thread-filter is truly a consciousness altering experience in itself, beyond the scope of any psychotropic experience, as spiritually unconscious as we may yet be midst our so called human experiences.

Furthermore, the brain procures an illusory division between the five ordinary senses; as one may compare this phenomenon as to how one may perceive the five senses in a state of converged oneness from midst higher states of astral projection, but especially those heightened out-of-body states where one’s mental spirit-body faculties have been awakened. One’s true spiritual senses are merely divided, and thereby censored, as a result of being grounded to the filtration process of the brain. Further, this bio-electro filtration process therefore limits as well as inhibits the incarnate spirit-entity’s capacity for exhibiting heightened levels of consciousness expression, awareness and perception. In other words, ordinary consciousness is merely a product of filtered consciousness, of which the brain has taken possession thereof. For understand that the brain has no true consciousness of its own, so hence it steals yours’ by means of harnessing and sustaining a resonant state of bio-electro-magnetism that in turn hijacks your spiritual channel of thought frequency, thus through its consciousness filtration functions. Higher vibration transmissions from the lesser or Rupa mind body are divided by the two opposite hemispheres of the brain, and then further divided as the result of becoming grounded to the neurological sensory perceptions of the nervous system of the physical-vessel. The conclusion is that an illusory division between the conscious and subconscious aspects of one’s mind occurs as a product of spiritual-consciousness filtration, being a programmed illusion of bio-electro-chemical generated duality. Always remember that the spiritual-consciousness-thread-circuit is electromagnetically bridged into energetic cohesion with the consciousness-thread-ground from the spiritual mind, of which your true mind exists outside of the brain of the physical body. “Within is without, and without is within.”

Reinstated, “the spiritual-consciousness-thread channels downwards from the Atmic source of spirit and the casual-spirit embodiment, and it threads through a series of lesser spirit body crowns and centers, to the ethereal crown-force-center-inlet, from which it is electromagnetically bridged to the pineal gland; this state of consciousness grounding is fortified by the pituitary gland, which seals the third-eye force-center, and thereby mediating all vibrations from through the pineal gland. How do electro-bio chemicals affect the spiritual-consciousness-thread-grounding and filtration functions of the brain? Mental-prana that is mingled with acutely subtle variants of fohat-electricity certainly serves an important role in the electromagnetic grounding processes of the brain. Furthermore, it has been taught that prana is received by the pituitary and pineal glands of the brain, in other words; this statement is also synonymous in regard to chi energy. There is a circulated auric distribution chi or prana energy that is directly received from through each of the ethereal chakra vortexes, as sensory vibrations are subconsciously exchanged between the physical and astral spirit-embodiments through the ethereal body. The nervous system harnesses subtle fohat variants of electricity, which in turn harnesses prana from the chain of subtle spirit-bodies; by virtue of the ethereal aura.

One's spiritual mind is harnessed from outside of the brain of the physical vehicle; and that physical body is more so in possession of the incarnate-spirit than the occupying spirit is in possession of its body. Hence, there is an imminent need for esoteric techniques which interrupt the spirit-grounding and consciousness-filtration functions of the security-system-defenses of the physical vessel.

 

Solemnly, I thoroughly respect your ratiocination. You made a superb point! This knowledge has the potential for either great good or profound evil; in my perception, to induce such a phenomenon would be an exceedingly positive experience for the right two individuals! Blessings.

 

What an astonishing response!

Some walk-in spirits suffer from memory loss upon walking into a walk-out's physical body. I think that this alleged phenomenon is solely dependent upon awakening the brows force-center or chakra within the ethereal field of one's Aura; and thus to fully awaken one's astral brows-force-center.

Not everyone has incurred memory loss or identity confusion midst their experiences in regard to vehicle transference related phenomena; for instance, examine how a channeled spirit may retain its conscious sense of identity as its spiritual mind is being channeled through a medium's physical body..

Blessings.

 

What an intriguing response! I would be immensely interested in conversing with you in regard to your past out-of-body experiences. Pointedly, I have had many, many out-of-body experiences, myself. I've actually simultaneously traveled to the astral plane with certain friends, having returned to our physical vessels with the SAME memories; i.e. out-of-body locations, out-of-body conversations, meetings with astral spirits, and etc. With ardent confidence, I strongly feel that we could have a conscious, simultaneous experience together, as I have had such fascinating supernatural experiences before. So, what if I were to accept your offer? Kind regards and blessings.

 

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Thank you for contributing your reply. Are you familiar with out-of-body states or astral projection? What are your intentions for accepting? I'm rather shocked that someone was actually willing to engage in such a ritual with me.

Namaste and sincere regards.