"arab internment"

Nope.

 

How in the world do you assume that i think the Japanese internment was justified???

Read closely:

The people of that time did not think of it as some horrible thing that was an affront to their rights ~ they believed that they had the right to do what they did, and voluntarily went to the camps.

Was it the New York Hilton? No. It was slap-dashed together housing, and several families were expected to live in one house.

Nowhere have i ever seen (nor have i ever heard of) any reference to beatings, torture, starvings, nor anything else remotely resembling the conditions of internment at Gitmo.

If you can possibly comprehend this, the Japanese internment was a GROUP EFFORT ~ everyone agreed that it would be for the best, for that particular situation, at that particular time.

We know it's wrong to do that to anyone ~ that's probably why we have hundreds of thousands of Muslims and/or peeps of Middle Eastern ancestry wandering the streets at will, today, rather than interned in some camp.

btw, if that was ever suggested by our gov? i'd be against it, 100%.

(Well, unless the folks being "held captive" actually wanted the safety of the captivity, and understood what they would be giving up in the way of rights.)

 

For the slightly off topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

"In 1988, Congress passed and President Ronald Reagan signed legislation which apologized for the internment on behalf of the U.S. government. The legislation stated that government actions were based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership".[10] About $1.6 billion in reparations were later disbursed by the U.S. government to surviving internees and their heirs."

blahblahblah.

 

http://history.cbc.ca/history/?MIva...ies_id=1&episode_id=14&chapter_id=3&page_id=3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment


READ CLOSELY: The people who were being interned did think of it as some horrible thing that affronted their rights, you knuckle head. Arguing that everyone else thought it was ain't no thing for them to lose their rights is like arguing that it was ain't no thing for the Nazis to take away the rights of the Jews. The Nazis also thought they had the right to do what they did, and some of the Jewish people voluntarily went to concentration camps too!!

They were held against their will for years living in an internment camp in their own country.

Everyone agreed eh? So hundreds of thousands of Japanese who were captured and taken by the military were agreeing to go by free will?


WTF Fyrenza. Get your head out of yer ass. There's no light in there, my dear.

 

How many ways do folks have to tell you:

It WAS/IS NOT the same.

Can you focus on that? Just that?

Regardless of the reasons WHY, it was/is not the same.

...Unless, of course, you can dredge up some Canadian horror story of all of the tortures, and beatings, and atrocities?

How can you sit there and fault folks for what they did?

THEY DID IT.

WE get to learn from it.

(Honestly? i grew up in Japan, ages 13 - 19, and had a lot of 1/2 Japanese friends, who took me to their grandmother's house for a special ceremony, who's cousin helped me with a difficult medical problem, who's family housed us overnight for the Pink Floyd outdoor concert, on and on. NONE of them ever said anything bad about the internment camps, and some of them HAD been there and done that. And this was, what? Less than 30 years after the fact. What can i say? If i'm ignorant, it truly WAS my education ~ both academic AND in the school of life.)

i'm bitchy right now, and that just hit me the wrong way ~

To me, if it had been "so horrible?" We would NEVER have made the allies of Japan that we did, and that we were able to meet them on a level playing field, where it was understood, maybe for the first time, that our cultures were not and are not that similiar.

We got a chance to see a kind of loyalty rarely exhibited by any peoples ~

to their homeland.

And if their homeland changed? SO DID THAT DEPTH OF LOYALTY.

The Japanese that were in the internment camps? They were, and are, true heroes, because of their sacrifice,

because of their loyalty, which was truly inspiring,

and because of their personal commitment to their new homeland.

Come on, now...

Don't make me have to cry, because you pity them.

They don't want, and, indeed, didn't need, your pity.

They did, WITH DIGNITY, what was asked of them,

even though it cost them, dearly.

And then, in a miraculous turn of events,

they PROSPERED, and grew, and integrated.

Now.

Can we just STFU about the Japanese internment being the same as Gitmo?

Please?

 

No, because that is what this thread is about, so if you don't like it - LEAVE!

 

Okay.

Wouldn't want to offer up any conflicting views and upset the apple cart, as it were...

Carry on.