Arafat is dead

Read the article.

 

Why don't you read the article for once? Jeez, always wanting people to do things so you don't have to. You're so goddamned lazy.

 

I was talking to MC.

 

MC? MC what? MC Hammer? MC Chris? MC Escher? Madame Curie?

 

Let's set Eliot on fire and have a weenie roast. The hot dogs will cook, too.

 

I can't help but to think that it's very AMERICAN of you to say that Yasser Arafat was a terrorist. The Israeli people aren't any more innocent than Palestinians and the government in Israel and Ariel Sharon are just as "terrorist" as the Palestinian government and Yasser Arafat.

 

Bullshit. All Palestinians want to do is destroy Israel. If they would have succeded in doing that they would just look for some other non-Islamic people to terrorize.

 

Most of the posts are as KozmicBlue pointed out typically American. You start using your buzz word "terrorism" and applying it to Palestinians among who some hardliners do want to destroy Israel (because they don't recognise it's existance because the English took their land off them and gave it to the then homeless Jews), but Arafat and others basically fought for a state of their own and basic human rights neither of which they have because of the Israeli "terrorists" (to use your buzz word). It may be a cliche but it still rings true, "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter". The Palestinians live in an aparthide state where they are second class citizens, have their houses bulldozed down and have innocent people gunned down who go out to protest. When one lives in an evironment likes this it breads the Machiavellian metality ("the ends justifies the means"). What about the American terrorism in Iraq?? At least the Palestinians have a proper cause. I don't agree with the means used by Hamas or the more militant members of the PLO but I do think that Yassar Arafat did a great deal with regards to making Palestinian reaslise that concession would have ot made on both side and he did epitomise his countries struggle for freedom. In America all you get is pro-Israel news and your government constantly back them, take your head out of your asses, stop watching Fox and wise up to what's really going on over there.

Also OlHippie your comment couldn't be further from the truth and is typical of the American lack of knowledge of the situation. All the Palestinian want is ther own state and a proper life, they have no desire to terrorise other countries or non-islamic people.

 

I stand by my statement.

 

hmm, I'm not sure about the cold, but the rest of it is true. I think most AIDS patients die because of lung infections, when you're body is no longer capable of fighting it off.
As far as arafat being a terrorist goes, I don't see him being anymore of a terrorist than that fat fucking pig ariel sharon. The only reason why why so many americans think evil about him is because the news doesn't broadcast all the death Israel causes.....I guess they gotta protect their money interests.
This is not to say that I think arafat was an innocent bystander, but really there wasn't THAT much he could do since he was confined to such a small space often without electricity and such with the threat of israel trying to murder him everywhere.

What is a terrorist? Some people throw the word around so lightly....is the shit israel is allowed to get away with (like shooting infants in the face) not considered terrorism just because it's an organized army carrying it out?

 

At least he won the Nobel price for peace.
May you rest in peace, Yassar.

*minute of silence*

 

ok, what I should have said was pnemonia, which is the common cold that got really bad and went into the lungs.

 

was you saying they are as bad as each other ??? I agree with you if thats the case .

Its the innocent people on both sides that makes me think .. why not sort this out once and for all. maybe now Arafat has gone something may change and it won't be stale mate for another forty odd years.

I am wondering were all of his money is going too.

And just one more thing , If it was Aids what has him being homesexual have to do with it ???. thats not realy a question by the way.

 

moonshyne]hmm, I'm not sure about the cold, but the rest of it is true. I think most AIDS patients die because of


i just know that over a t hird of aids patients die from some sort of cancer. so 99 cant die of the cold.

 

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And that's why it makes me angry how so many Americans think Israel and Israelis are just these innocent victims and Palestinians are the bad guys. It's not always so black and white.
Spacer made very good points in his post.

 

Since most Americans get mainly pro-Israel/Anti-Palestine news they should read http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage to get things from an Arab perspective.

 

Most of you (other than a selected few) are completly ignorant on the subject anyhow. I have tried to discuss this with self proclaimed "hippies" on the UK forum, and the right wing idealism just does not give way to knowledge. Only forum I shall discuss this on is the Politics forum, on which people actually know what they are talking about.

Terrorist or not, the death of Arafat benefits both nations. If you want my personal opinion on Arafat, read one of the many threads concerning Israel here.

 

I will morn his passing by passing a big turd

 

I couldn't agree more, also right wing idealism will not solve the conflict which is why the new Palestinian leaders when elected have to make Hamas see that a comprimise has to be reached. That's why I believe that Israel killing the likes of Yassin was a bad idea as you can kill leaders but you can't kill ideas as simply and by killing the leaders you only make martyrs out of them. Also the Israeli right have to realise that concessions have to be made on both sides. I also agree that Arafats death gives new hope I just feel that people on here branded him as nothing but a terrorist when in fact that man was the one who made alot of Palestinians realise some give and take was needed and make some progress in peace talks although these did fall apart in the end. I know he committed atrocities but alot of people don't see that despite his methods (which I never agreed with) he had a cause.