Are Atheists liars, or just stupid?

They just feel they need to provide penance for something. They feel like they owe god a big one even though they would probably be here with or without god (the real person).

I believe he was a real person, I don't believe in his powers. That's right I called them powers. All Jesus is to you people is a 'Superhero hippie', in its earliest recorded form. I believe that god once was, not that he still is. This world is too depraved for the presence of god and it was when he was alive as well. The Romans proved it then and America might prove it now

I believe that if the U.S kills Julian Assange, it will be a near mirror image of the crucifixion of Jesus. I might be ape-shit crazy, but whatever.

 

Oh excuse me while I point out that your tangent consisted of six statements of ignorance and a plea for mercy. You don't mind if I don't grab a hold of your life raft.

 

He was something equal only to his teaching.
The teaching gives access to our own power to effect our circumstances.
i.e. the measure you give is the measure you receive.

 

Jesus had the greatest superpower ever heard of.
It's known as "Love".

 

Yes this is true. But something tells me his teachings have been skewed across the time line. And a lot of the people who worship god or choose to believe in him act and live contradictory to his teachings. It has never made sense to me and believe me I have tried.

I simply do not believe in evangelicalism. People telling me my life is less because I wont read the teachings of ONE MAN, then worship him every Sunday. I don't like how they seem to get a pleasure out of converting someone else, I find it strangely perverted and a bit uncomfortable. Something tells me they are all holding him higher than he wished, because Jesus was a humble man from what I've read.

 

Wow. What an ignorant, disrespectful, intolerant, narrow minded, post. I hope you're trollin', cause if you're not, the fact that there's still people who think like you is just sad.

 

I regard the teaching as an offer of assistance but yes, people interpret from their own conflicted determinations.

 

The desire to extend and be in the moment, love, is the only creative power we have.

 

If I may be so bold, I'd venture to say that Jesus' teachings don't belong to Jesus in the possessive sense that you have implied. The teachings of Jesus belong to humanity in general, and these teachings have been taught by everyone at some point in their lives.
That is why there is a distinction between Jesus and Christ. Jesus is the man, Christ is the spirit, the spirit that the teachings truly stem from, and a spirit that we all have the capacity to embody and that speaks in the heart of every man from time to time.

You are quite correct not to believe in evangelicalism and the profiteering actions of it's leaders. The Holy Spirit is not a capitalist invention.
However you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The story of Jesus has been around for thousands of years. Don't make a judgment about the central message of that story that is skewed by your perceptions of superfluous growths.
Look at the core.

 

Really? That plea for mercy was merely sarcasm. I am very familiar with God and Religion so unfortunately for you what I speak is not ignorance, although I can see how I came across that way. Do some research on religion and war and see for yourself how it coincides. I've read the bible countless times, and with that being said my personal opinion and conclusion is that "God" resembles Satan much more.

Unfortunately so much evil has been committed in Gods name, however I do realize so much love as well. I am thankful that I was raised Christian, it really helped shape my basic morals and beliefs.

I may be stuck in my own ideas and am admittedly a bit closeminded to religion.. so I apologize if I come across offensive.. We can certainly agree to disagree. Truly, I have no qualms with religious folks, I enjoy the diversity and find other peoples minds intriguing. To me the most beautiful thing about people is that 99.9% of our DNA is the same, however we have such complex different personalities, quirks and beliefs.

Now I sound like a hypocrite. lol. We're all guilty of it, its only human nature.

 

uh, he could also fly.

I think flying is a much cooler superpower than love.

 

Might get slammed for this, but I'm feeling sporty.

I honestly do not believe that any level of faith, effects any level of reality. Other than the fact that so many people believe in a said deity, there is no actual divine intervention ANYWHERE. The only reason god is so powerful in people's minds is because so many people are willing to partake. Religion is nothing but a collection of cults fighting one another over which of them is better, and more peaceful. The only reason for religion is to make the journey to death a little easier on the susceptible, fragile human mind.

The fact that people feel as though they are guaranteed an entrance to a better place once biological death is complete, simply because they have done what HE would have approved of is not only ridiculous its obviously selfish. Its this ridiculous insurance policy that people abuse for self interest. If they used religion for what it was meant to be used for, the world would be a better place. Not a worse one.

Narrow, pseudo enlightened, mentally comforting, bullshit. I don't buy a word of it. Never have, and don't 'believe' I will. Nothing is really that sacred. The cross you have was carved out of wood or plastic. Or it was stamped in a factory. It is not sacred, it simply appears to be.

 

The cross is merely a symbol of what is truly sacred. Symbols are import to us and are powerful psychological tools.
You appear to be obsessed with the institution of religion rather than what it all is really meant to be about.

 

Not obsessed. I've just done a bit of thinking about it. Which seems to be more than some people who actually are involved in the religion.

Dude I said that If religion was used for what it was supposed to be used for, by the mass of people believing in it...the world would be a better place and religion would be more attractive to put MY faith in.

 

No... aaah.... Heeh2 is just trolling towards the sceptical ego of the Caferty Files. If Karzai believes (that he believes) there is no scepticism for the certain existence of believing in the Existence of God , or Allah. Belief is emotional to re-attain to by the Jihad.

 

uhhh... what?

 

willedwill-have you been hired to irritate people by obfuscation? Or you doin' it for free?

 

You misunderstand me. I was pulling your leg. The six statements of ignorance referred to the fact that they were posed as questions. Questions come from where answers are not. The plea for mercy characterization, was
sarcastic.

Naw, you chose to begin like that. There is no human nature, there is human behavior.
Human nature is indistinct from any other, "nature".

 

Hate is caused by subjective evaluation.

Did you understand what I said?

 

Same here.