Are todays men less masculine?

Isn't that what they used to call pedophiles?

 

Oh, he's definitely on the wrong site, lol

 

Uhg--me man-you woman-praise the GOG.

 

It was like jumping into another world trying to read those comments

 

Yeah, the Dark Ages.

 

I enjoy reading thoughtful comments and don't want to distract from all that you so eloquently expressed, and you certainly have a broad range of experiences to draw from. But I respectfully think that you should try to broaden your horizons regarding age. The men in my close circle range from 19 to the 70s.... my dad, who is a solid man physically but also is as understanding, informed, compassionate and fair minded as anyone I have ever known, male or female or any age. And the #1 man in my life who is in his 60s, is just as incredibly well versed, thoughtful and caring. Maybe it's because both my dad and my love are men of the world, they have both traveled extensively and dealt with all kinds of people, and my baby is fond of saying that 'seeing the world' can raise social IQ to the top of the scale. And all of that adds to the total character of a man.

On the other side of that, anyone who thinks that men aren't as alpha as they used to be has never watched American football or basketball or even Euro football because even in my limited experience men are men are men, potentially, regardless of anything. Of course fistfights and all of that range from juvenile to someone really seriously pissing a guy off, maybe offending or threatening him or someone he loves in a very bad way. My sweetie is most certainly a 'high order' Alpha, but he is often the most agreeable and passive person in a whole crowd of people. Unless.....

 

Thank you for the honest and straight forward comments!

 

Lena: I hope that I am as close as I can be to that which you describe. Nice post.

 

No, I don't think men are getting less masculine, but I do feel they're being made to feel ashamed of showing masculinity for fear of being called 'misogynist' , Maybe this is diverting your discussion, but I do feel women are getting less feminine , and I think this is a pity. Over the last century many women have appropriated clothing and names formerly traditionally associated with men (I'm speaking from England here): trousers, particularly jeans, boots such as Doc Martens . 'biker' jackets ,etc. They call themselves Bill, Ted, Ed, Jack, Phil, etc. A man wearing a dress, high heels or a frilly top and calling himself Rachel or Anna (though he has a perfect right to if he wants to) would be considered eccentric ro say the least.

So to return to the original question, I think the world would be a happier place if men were more clearly men and women more clearly women.

 

Blimey theres some seriously odd posts in this thread from accounts purporting to be men.

Seriously?! Wtaf?
Masculinity has nothing to do with misogyny! Indeed, I believe a misogynist isn't a real man and for many reasons; one being that a real man has respect for others regardless of their gender, heritage, age, or any other domography.

Apologies if I am adding to the diversion of this thread but I couldn't leave without challenging stuff that is (imo) very wrong.

Regardless of my preferences; welcome to the worlds of fashion and personal choice. To feel threatened by an individual's clothing choice is a real special level of weirdness.

Are you really speaking as an English person or, at least, someone familiar with England? When someone introduces themselves with a full first name, the most common response is to abbreviate it. (Hence my name here, [which was abbreviated and 'stuck'], when I went to England for a while).

Eg, Hi, my name is Andrew. Hi Drew/Andy, will be the likely response. The abbreviation may be the same for a female as it is for a guy but that's where context applies. Aly (pronounced Al-ee) can be short for Alison or Alexander/Alexandra/Allister/Alastair and more. Steff can be short for Stephanie or Stephan (Steffan). Nearly every name is abbreviated. Indeed, they couldn't abbreviate my normally-used forename so they asked for my other one which they instantly shortened. lol

Considered by whom? I live with a mindset that works for me and which has made others not from my country feel welcome. "Live and let live". If that, which someone chooses to do doesnt affect me, their choice is of no consequence to me.

You should read up on the history of fashion and history of various cultures. The choice of clothing for men and women has flipped around throughout the last 1000 years and probably longer.

I've never before imagined or considered that a girl or woman wear Doc Martins might be mistaken for another gender and that concept applies equally to a guy wearing a sarong. (Both being mere examples of clothing styles worn by men and women).