Are Transgender People Really Trapped In The Wrong Body?

I'm a fat person, trapped in a thin body. Pizza rules!

 

jenner is 20yrs behind to wong fu.

 

Orison...................is this your portrait ?

 

"Why do you care at all when there are other, more important issues to worry about?"

That's my fucking point girl.

You smart, figure it out.

 

off topic, time for mod hat ..

 

Ya'all don't really need help with that

 

hows the ozone sucker

 

I'm glad their's a hole in the ozone layer. Makes me feel closer to god

 

he moved

 

Oh man, now THIS is a controversial subject. And it happens to be one that I am curious to understand better. Incoming unpopular opinion, you have been warned:
From my perspective, I think BIOLOGICAL gender is the final word, you just can't change nature. At least, not with our current level of medical science. These so-called "gender correction surgeries" are pure bullshit. Chopping a man's dick and balls off doesn't make him a woman, it just makes him a man with mutilated genitals. He cannot have periods, he cannot get pregnant, and he (probably) cannot produce milk, therefore he is male, and nothing he does can change that. And same goes for a woman that wants to be a man.
I believe "transgenderism", that is, the idea of being trapped in the wrong body, is quite simply a mental disorder. Now that sounds harsh, but all the symptoms are there if you look closely:
1. Incapability of being satisfied or happy with oneself
2. Delusions of what is "needed" for one to be happy, when in truth it is not necessary
3. Cyclical thinking that maintains those delusions, and makes the person in question unable to hold themselves accountable for their own problems, AKA "self-victimization"
All of these qualities can be found in MENTAL DISORDERS, such as depression and social anxiety, etc.
Now, I'm not entirely insensitive to transgender issues. Because while I think transgenderism is bullshit, I also think society's ideals of gender identity are bullshit, too. If a man wants to wear dresses and dance ballet, then he has that right. If a woman wants to play football and never wear bras or makeup, then by all means, it's her choice to do what she wants. People shouldn't let society dictate what they can do simply because of their gender. But the REAL problem is when we feed into these delusions that these people are "in the wrong body" and "can never be happy without corrective surgery". We wouldn't tell people who identify as other-kin to get "species correction surgery", and attach pointy ears and paw pads and tails to themselves, now would we? No, because that's clearly not the right way to help those people. And it's the same with transgenders and "gender correction" surgery. It's the wrong way. These people have a mental disorder, and what they REALLY need is therapy and medication to help them deal with their warped and unhealthy belief that they can never be happy or comfortable with their natural gender. It's not easy, it's a terrible lifelong struggle, but at least we're not allowing them to lie to themselves and descend into their own twisted little fantasy world.
Now, I like to think I'm a fairly open-minded person, and I'm not going to say I'm right about this, this is merely what I believe. If anyone wants to challenge my way of thinking with logic and facts, I'm completely up for it. I'm always up for a good debate, because I enjoy learning new things.

 

Oh man, now THIS is a controversial subject. And it happens to be one that I am curious to understand better. Incoming unpopular opinion, you have been warned:
From my perspective, I think BIOLOGICAL gender is the final word, you just can't change nature. At least, not with our current level of medical science. These so-called "gender correction surgeries" are pure bullshit. Chopping a man's dick and balls off doesn't make him a woman, it just makes him a man with mutilated genitals. He cannot have periods, he cannot get pregnant, and he (probably) cannot produce milk, therefore he is male, and nothing he does can change that. And same goes for a woman that wants to be a man.
I believe "transgenderism", that is, the idea of being trapped in the wrong body, is quite simply a mental disorder. Now that sounds harsh, but all the symptoms are there if you look closely:
1. Incapability of being satisfied or happy with oneself
2. Delusions of what is "needed" for one to be happy, when it truth it is not necessary for happiness
3. Cyclical thinking that maintains those delusions, and makes the person in question unable to hold themselves accountable for their problems, AKA "self-victimization"
All of these qualities can be found in MENTAL DISORDERS, such as depression and social anxiety, etc.
Now, I'm not entirely insensitive. Because while I think transgenderism is bullshit, I also think society's ideals of gender identity are bullshit, too. If a man wants to wear dresses and dance ballet, then he has that right. If a woman wants to play football and never wear bras or makeup, then by all means, it's her choice to do what she wants. But what the big problem is, is when we feed into these delusions that these people are "in the wrong body" and "can never be happy without corrective surgery". We wouldn't tell people who identify as gender-kin to get "species correction surgery", an attach pointy ears and paw pads and tails to themselves, not would we? No, because that's clearly not the right way to help those people. And it's the same with transgenders and "gender correction" surgery. It's the wrong way. These people have a mental disorder, and what they REALLY need is therapy and medication to help them deal with their warped and unhealthy belief that they can never be happy or comfortable with their natural gender. It's not easy, it's a terrible lifelong struggle, but at least we're not allowing them to lie to themselves and descend into their own twisted little fantasy world that just isn't the truth.
Now, I like to think I'm a fairly open-minded person, and I'm not going to say I'm right about this, this is merely what I believe. If anyone wants to challenge my way of thinking with logic and facts, I'm completely up for it.

 

You’re right it’s a mental disorder, a delusion, and as a society we’re only enabling them through our acceptance and praise



Hotwater

 

Lolz, and how many ladyboys do you think, think to themsleves OMG i can't have periods i'm so missing out, i cant get fat and pregnant, i cant have my boobs get twice as big to make milk then get saggy afterwards

 

If the people who think that being transgendered is a mental illness gave as much passionate attention to all mental illnesses, what kind of world would this be?

 

I think that if an individual has an XY genotype, its a male; XX female. Of course then you have stuff like Turner's syndrome where and individual has only has one X chromosome which develop mostly female or other generic disorders where an individual has extra copies of the X chromosome.

 

Individual means undivided doesn't it? How can we have half of an individual?

 

What is the answer. the one we have

 

i use the term individual in this case to refer to a specimen of the human species.

 

We don't know what the future will be like.

 

Of course we do!