are vegatarians hypocrites?

um... no!

 

prove it

 

have you ever studied any biology?
you said animals and plants don't evolve, which is complete bullshit.

lol, only humans evolve... we have pretty much stopped evolving because of our reliance on technology. which is really too bad for us because evolution is key to survival of a species.

 

I'm still trying to figure that out. I do not claim to know all the answers, or even any. I want answers, but I'm not so sure we as a people will ever find them. And to be honest I'm not so sure there are any answers. We might be fooling ourselves, in our "intelligence", into figuring something out that doesn't even exist. Maybe it is a man kill man world and I'm trying to find a prayer. But either way I'm searching, and I feel a purpose, but I have yet to figure it out.

 

I wonder if we're gonna evolve ugly bc we don't have to depend on our limps. can you picture gimp sex? lol.

thats our future

 

humans have never evolved in fact we use less of our brain now than we did 3000 years ago,and yes i have studied biology,which is why i know an ape will never talk and get a job and evolve into a human because an ape never has,nothin evolves the whole earth is falling apart not evolving just cause a catapiller evolves into a butterfly dont mean shit cause it will never evole into anything else,this thread has like 45 posts in it and i never got a real answer to the question just a bunch of insults, which is why i think vegetarians give hippies a bad rap all of them ive ever met run around sayin crazy things about not eatin meat, and if u ask them to explain it they either insult u or go around the answer.

 

look, please don't take this the wrong way but your whole point is informed by the bible, and therefore absurd and groundless. what's wrong with thought?

to answer the original question, you have to understand that the only way to not harm another life is to commit suicide. biological matter lives off other biological matter, and water. the point of ethical vegetarianism isn't to "not kill life", it is to avoid inflicting needless suffering. yes, the difference between killing a cow and a carrot is that a cow has a central nervous system and is capable of feeling emotions and physical pain (this is not up to debate; if you think only humans have the capacity for thought or emotion, you probably have neither). how does this not make sense??

 

i think you are misinformed on how evolution actually works. you say you have studied biology, but have you really?

caterpillars turning into butterflies is not evolution. apes do not magically turn into humans overnight. evolution is a long, slow process that takes place over millions of years. one species (monkeys) does not magically turn into another (humans) over the course of a few thousand years. evolution cannot be measured in one lifetime.

 

my info is not based on the bible, i am a christian,but science and the bible r 2 different things,evolution takes alot of time yes,but no animal or human has evolved the earth has changed,technology has changed,the way we live has changed,there is no scientifc proof anything has evolved,theres proof that alot has detiorated,alot of animals dont exist anymore,dinosaurs and shit, the only true evolution is revolution kingdoms have fell lifes changed but thats it never has any animal evolved, theres no proof we were ever apes our dna is close cause were both mammals but humans will always be humans.
theres nothin wrong with thought, even if i based all my points on the bible it still wouldent make any of my points absurd do u know over 50 scientist have converted to chritianity after years of studing they realized science goes hand in hand with the bible, if anyone would give the bible an openminded chance,like when they 1st smoked pot or drank theyd have a different point of view i was brought up strct christian and hated it but afetr a few years of livin how i wanted i gave it a chance.

 

most of them were probably charlatans.

I'm really not trying to be rude and don't think me sarcastic (I'm not) when I ask you to clarify a few things I think I understood: you believe in creationism, and think the only evolution has been technological human advancement. and you think humans are a seperate group of life that exists apart from the animal kingdom.

do you also believe someone would go to hell for doubting your god?

 

evolution is just exploiting genetic differences/naural selection/survival of the fittest. it doesn't have to take place over millions of years, in some instances it takes place on only a few years. an example is a species of moth in Europe called the peppered moth. the moth was mainly all white with black spots, but, just like any other species there was genetic differences... so there were also a few light black moths of the same species. it just so happens that most of the trees in it habitat were cover in a naturally occurring white fungus called lichens. this made it easy for the moths to avoid predators because the white moths blended in on the "white trees". during the industrial revolution in Europe a lot of coal was burned and polluted the air. the lichens on the trees began to die off and coal residue turned them darker. the white moths began to be eaten, but the light black moths were able to avoid predators and breed. thus furthering the existence of the species and turning the white peppered moths into black peppered moths.

evoloution

 

Do you have a fear of punctuation?


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oh yeah, I remember those guys from high school.

 

wow i never knew about these moths in europe. i was going to mention galapagos, but i didnt think paulsdead would know what i was talking about

 

galapagos? hey i watch the discovery channel

 

keep watching it

 

can anyone prove that meat which is physical, can affect your spirit or or soul which is spiritual? the physical world and spiritual world r 2 different things.
living in the material world/george harrison.

 

I've read books that hint on it, like the Celestine Prophecy and the such, which are supposively based on deeper spiritual stuff, wish I knew more. But like you, I wrestle with this notion. It's just the way they do it now that makes me sick. factory farming, growth hormones, being rasied to be eaten as opposed to chance in the environment, the abuse, it's sickening.

If you know how awful the process is to get that meat how can it not be a spiritual quest for you to overcome the brutality of such a quest?

 

no all i was askin is for a logical reason to why vegetarins r what they r.
i dont like what they do either, as far as growth hormones and shit, they cause cancer when u eat them, i eat canned tuna, and chicken i personally dont care how they kill it just how they grow it.
as far the spiritual/physical question that was a response to what someone said, sayin that something physical can effect ur spirit is hypocritical, thats like sayin if i stab myself in the leg im stabbin my spirit.