Are You A Racist

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by roamy, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. Mike Suicide

    Mike Suicide Sweet and Tender Hooligan

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    Ok your right I was intermingling the two because they're so intertwined. but this topic sucks imma go play tennis elbow foot.
     
  2. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    that is 100% correct to.that it dose'nt havta be about inferiority or superiority.its just plain hatred of a race of people which still =racism.
     
  3. Ranger

    Ranger Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    agreed! nor is it limited to any one people. one of the strangest night ever was one in the '60s when my pardner sam who was a black marine vet and his blond girlfriend nancy, myself and my girl kitten who is norse made a late night run from houston to galveston and found the only cafe open was a small black owned cafe and all black customers. all was fine untill a large drunk took exception to whites being there and tried to rally the other patrons against us at which point the owner a tiny (by comparison) granma type came from behind the counter and read him the riot act and tossed him out where upon the other patrons assured us they had our backs.....then on the way back to houston we stopped for gas and the red neck kkk type refused us service and threatened to call the cops bc sam & nancy were kissing in the backseat....
     
  4. Meliai

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    Race doesn't exist.

    I don't neccessarily appreciate every culture, but I can appreciate individuals from all cultures.
     
  5. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    I don't know. All I know is white people and native americans.
     
  6. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    race dose exist.it is created by society as a way to create generalized assumptions i.e. labels. they are used as distint markings.it distinguishes people by grouping people together by similarities and differences, as in ethnicity.so to say race dose'nt exist is ridiculous.
     
  7. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    like rat said, i've met good people from a lot of different backgrounds and assholes from a lot of different backgrounds. i'll judge you for who you are, not the colour of your skin or the language you speak or by where your parents were born.
     
  8. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    as it should be egg
     
  9. Ranger

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    'race' as the term is being used here is a invented concept not unlike time. geneticly there is only the one 'human race'.........
     
  10. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    its not a concept its a reality.walk into any prison and ask all residents whats the first thing they had to fill out on a form.race!also i would like to add not everyone in the human race is actually humane.there is huge crimes commited against humanity that could never be classed as humane acts.
     
  11. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    Racist? No. Overly offensive? Yes.
     
  12. Ranger

    Ranger Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    i was speaking of genetic reality in that all the 'race' of humans can inter breed without producing sterile 'mules'. humaness is another subject.
     
  13. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    of course we're different cultures. we're different countries.
     
  14. Ranger

    Ranger Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    agreed!

    nite
     
  15. bird_migration

    bird_migration ~

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    No, but I do know how to ride a bicycle.
     
  16. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    as far as i know/think, racism starts like this:

    identity is identification. we construct our sense of self from an early age by identifying what we are by recognising it in others. think of the baby bird which is raised by humans and believes that a human is its mother. we see other people and ourselves in mirrors and gradually we begin to be able to construct a mental idea of who we are (in babies, this is called the mirror stage, where the baby is obsessed with its own image) which is the second step to being able to make cognitive sense of the world (the first being spatial awareness.)

    then we continue to construct our identity by working out what we aren't. we construct a load of binaries all of which help to reinforce our fractured sense of identity, "iam human because i am not an animal" "i am man because i am not a woman" "i am black because i am not white." we begin to understand who we are by working out who we aren't. therefore, our sense of identity is built on the establishment of an "other" that which is not "us".

    (even if we later realise that these binaries are ill-founded, for example, humans ARE animals etc.)

    In people whose sense of identity is not secure, it is paramount to maintain these binary oppositions, otherwise the fear is that their sense of identity will fall apart. for example, why the racist pre-occupation with segregation and preventing racial mixing? because in order for a strong sense identity to be maintained the "other" has to be kept apart. a mixed race person, for a racist, is literally destroying their sense of identity by transgressing the boundary upon which their sense of identity is based. homophobia works in hte same way, homophobes hate gays (and transgendered people, generally even more so) because they perceive them as breaking the traditional gender binary, which is a direct attack on their sense of sexual identity.

    its been proven, for example, that people who self-identify as homophobic are in general more likely to respond to sexually simulating material featuring members of the same sex. this is homophobia as a form of abjection, where we attempt to cast off those parts of our identity which we don't want. its also why "homophobe" is such a technically appropriate term :D

    once we've got our "other" and they are kept far apart form us (so that we can make sure we don't meet them and accidentally realise they aren't as different to us as we'd like- this distance can be mental OR geographical) we can begin the process of projection. we cast off things that we fear in ourselves by projecting them onto our "other" for example, if i fear that i may secretly want to be sexually promiscuous (i'm using this example because it's generally the most common one) i can say "all blacks are sexually promiscuous"

    because its central to my sense of self that i am not black.

    and if i am not black and all blacks are sexually promiscuous

    then i am not sexually promiscuous.

    this is the psychological basis for negative stereotyping.

    for most people, there is a basic underlying strength in their sense of identity once they reach adulthood, therefore they are often more than willing to abandon or not take particularly seriously the binary oppositions that they used when growing up to make sense of the world, but that basic worldview lies dormant in everyone, it can be reinforced or encouraged by their surroundings, education, culture etc.

    in a liberal society, it tends to be most obvious in a collective sense, for example, the "pretty little white girl" thing, where a great tragedy or epidemic of some kind is only "made real" when it happens to a pretty white kid, we need to "put a face" on a crisis, and it needs to be a face that we culturally identify with. only then do we get a public outcry (i'm thinking of that terrible story of the young girl who drank bleach) or outpouring of money or support for a cause. in short, these underlying tendencies can prevent us from empathising with others, which is very dangerous, and is often deliberately and self-consiously used by the media and governments (how could you possibly justify and gather support for most wars if this was not the case?)

    anyway, that's my take on it.

    so, to answer the question, i think i have the beginnings of a racist in me, and so does everyone, because the roots of racism underlie all of our psyches, and the foundations of racism and identity are one and the same. this is why its important to create a society which doesn't encourage or support the growth of these latent tendencies into something uglier.

    but i try not to be :sunny:
     
  17. Meliai

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    Why is it ridiculous?

    Skin color changes according to clime. Skin color adapted as people moved out of Africa into colder climates. Genetically speaking the color of one's skin is as different genetically as eye color. Meaning there is virtually no genetic difference between people of different skin colors. Race has absolutely no genetic basis.

    People are small minded and feel the need to lump people into little boxes. This is the only reason race exists.

    biologically there could be a HUGE genetic difference in a black person living in America and a black person living in Africa. Skin color doesn't really mean someone comes from the same place or has the same ethnicity since we all came from Africa anyways. A white person could actually potentially have more in common with a black African than another black person.

    So I would say that saying race does exist is a bit ridiculous.
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Just because it is not always easily spotted doesn't mean races are ridicilous. Judging peoples intelligence etc. because of their race is when it gets ridicilous.
     
  19. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    yes

    niggers
     
  20. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Muslims aren't a race.
     
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