Are you guys ready for $6 gas in 18 months?

Yeah. Lode's about half a century late on that one.

 

Well, he's a half century late on most things. He's really good at repeating what all the talking heads are saying on TV, though, which he thinks makes him look smart to the people on these forums.

But I know, I am just a crazy "conspiracy theorist" because I read books and declassified government documents.

 

You guys deserve each other.

Duke it out among yourselves.

 

Well, Lode also believes GMO crops are a good thing. He believes fluoride is healthy when countless studies have shown otherwise. He thinks the Federal Reserve is helping the economy by devaluing the dollar... Whatever is promoted by the media as being "good" is embraced by Lode, even though I doubt he's done any of his own research into any of this. He's just one of these people who revels in looking "cool" and "smart" to other people by repeating the propaganda put out in the corporate media.

 

Vienen, Season 8, episode 18 - The X-Files - April 29 2001:

Deputy Director Kersh: "Mr Ortega, this is Special Agent Fox Mulder, the person you spoke to on the phone, I believe." [to Agents] "Mr Ortega is Vice President of Operations for Galpex Petroleum out of Galveston, Texas."
Mulder: "I believe we did speak, yep."
Deputy Director Kersh: "There's also confusion about who spoke to certain Government officials who seem to think the FBI is running an investigation into the accident."
Mulder: "That would have been me as well, Sir, and that was in the best interest of the FBI and Mr Ortega, I believe."
Deputy Director Kersh: "Mr Ortega would beg to differ. As would I."
Martin Ortega: "You complicated an already sensitive situation, Agent Mulder. Galpex Petroleum has discovered what we think may be a massive new oil province beneath the Gulf of Mexico. One that would give a huge advantage — financially and politically — to whoever gets to drill it."
Scully: "Who else are we talking about?"
Martin Ortega: "US territorial waters cover the northern half of the Gulf. Our wells are on our side, but the field may spread well to the south. The Government of Mexico could claim it's theirs."
Mulder: "This incident has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about the unexplained death of Simon de la Cruz."
Martin Ortega: "Simon de la Cruz was a Mexican national killed in a US business enterprise. They'd like nothing better than to use his death to get us to abandon the Orpheus rig so they can be the first to drill the province."
Deputy Director Kersh: "Leaving me no choice now but to conduct a criminal investigation — quickly and quietly — to take away any legal position that would affect American interests."

Mulder: "The man from Galpex Oil lied..."
Doggett: "What, he's infected too?"
Mulder: "No, that new oil province that he wants protected, it's already in production. It's being pumped by this rig. That's how this crew got infected."
Doggett: "You're reaching, Agent Mulder."
Mulder: "Billions and billions of barrels lying right underneath us, waiting to be produced, waiting to infect that ninety percent of the planet you talked about."
Doggett: "These men are hiding something, that'd sure be something to hide."

 

Same episode:

John Doggett: I never would have believed those stories about you.
Mulder: Really? What stories are those?
John Doggett: That you could find a conspiracy at a church picnic.
Mulder: ....What church?

 

Inflation is also running rampant, while remaining at 1/3 of that seen in the late 70's.

Also the general reference to inflation of gas directly affecting the SKYROCKETING of crude prices was a poor example.

"Something that cost 100 in 1997 costs $130 in 2007"

Well crude was well below $100 in '97 went up by a higher percentage than most commodities.

 

Pressed Rat, I simply believe you believe things that are wrong. Reading Pulp conspiracy novels doesn't count as research.

Praxis, oursourcing is a constant push. With gas prices higher, the cost of outsourcing becomes much higher, and it will be drastically discourage it.

Adam, The gigantic growth in demand from China and other nations drastically outpacing the pace in which it is pumped is also responsible.

 

As I have stated before, I do not read conspiracy novels. I am a researcher. I read books written by high level bureaucrats and elitists who speak openly about their plans. I am not one of these conspiracy hobbyists who is into for entertainment purposes.

Secondly, how do you figure that high gas prices will curb outsourcing? If anything it will contribute to more outsourcing, because when a compnay cannot afford to pay its employees in light of high gas prices, they are forced to move abroad where cheap labor is rampant.

 

Because the cost of shipping has tripled since 2000.

That drastically increases the cost of outsourcing production. In many fields there is no longer a benefit to outsourcing.

Theres no market forces particularly inclining employers to pay more right now, and your argument falls apart.

 

It is at over $6.00 US in Belize. I am not sure exactly what the price is.

So no problem.

This time next year we will be using a 50/50 mix of diesel and the oil out of the Jatropha curcas, or Physic Nut

It is a renewable resource. As are several other rainforest plants.

Within 5 years we will be 100% biodiesel.

So ready yes.

Happy in the fact most people are getting screwed without even a kiss by the oil companies? No.

 

It's a moot point because this country has already been gutted due to outsourcing. There is no going back at this point.

 

As I've just said, outsourcing wasn't soley an event of the 90's. It it a constant drive which was facilitated by market forces, such as cheap labor.

When the prices of labor overseas don't make up for the increased price of shipping, it is a further discouragement towards outsourcing.

There probably aren't many jobs coming back, but it drastically reduces the momentum fro jobs to go away.

 

Facilitated by market forces... right. Sounds like something Rush Limbaugh would say.

 

You do sound very rehearsed today, lode.

 

People oft compare me favorably to Rush Limbaugh. :biggrin:

 

...maybe you just want them to, Spence.

 

I'm the most Sean Hannity of Americans.

I'm voting for zombie Ron Reagan.

 

You do that, babe.

 

His campaign promise, braaaaaiins.







It'll be a departure from the Bush years. :biggrin: