Are you guys ready for $6 gas in 18 months?

Damn, this girl is a flirt.

 

this is why i want a vespa scooter...they get like 112 miles to the gallon

 

oooOOOoooo PwNed!!!!!1!!@!!one!

 

Aw jeez, I'm gonna be forced to buy a motorcycle just to be able to afford to own a vehicle.

 

What would you do if there would be no juice at all? Ar if it would be for 18$ in 6 months?

 

That is a dramatically different stance from your original.

 

I'd buy some horses if there were no gas to be had.

At $18/gal I would still be filling my tank 1.5 times a week. I'd just be wearing more dirty clothes and eating clearance sale hamburger meat instead of ribs and shit.

 

No it isn't. Never once did I suggest most jobs that have been outsourced would return. That's unrealistic.

 

I make a good impression Prax.

Knock it off.

Miscreant. :biggrin:

 

"This is going to bring a lot of jobs back home", I believe is a very close paraphrasing of your statement.

 

It.... my bad.

 

Very well, I misspoke the other day. Not many jobs are going to come back. Some already have, but it's likely it's going to be a large amount.

But it will further discourage future outsourcing. That's not a shift in my position.

 

Why would it discourage outsourcing if there are still multiple additional benefits to go with outsourcing?

Not to mention you're speaking of industries that are directly product oriented. For most IT, customer care/service/sales, data entry, and video monitoring companies there will be no increase in outsourcing cost. With the exception of IT jobs, the remainder are some of the jobs low income families, as well as non college grads, depend on.

 

Cost of labor is the issue that effects outsourcing. There is nothing as important as dollars and sense from the outsourcers perspective. If it becomes more expensive to outsource, which it will in several industries, than it won't be seen as a viable option.

Transportation costs are an issue with the vast majority of business. Looking at the exception doesn't disprove the assertion.

 

Forgetting the exception, you've failed to explain why any jobs would come home when the cost of shipping would not be drastically reduced and labor costs are guaranteed to increase dramatically?

 

But the price of shipping from foreign countries is directly tied to the price of gas.

I'm not sure when you decided to make the assertion that the cost of shipping overseas is not tied hand in hand with the cost of fuel.

But that doesn't make sense. The cost of shipping has tripled in a few years.

 

Considering the number of countries offering much lower fuel rates, combined with the fact that you are completely leaving out the thought of exporting to foreign countries I fail to see the major incentive to stop going with cheap labor and likely cheaper fuel costs as well despite distance which I'm assuming is what you're counting on as the major, constant, factor of the price.

Edit: I never said the cost of fuel didn't affect the cost of shipping. I simply stated that there would not be enough of an increase in shipping cost to cause anybody to really relocate their operations.

 

the great depression sparked a dramatic period of deflation not only in the price of goods but in wages and salaries as well..
i submit to you that with the coming economic crash due in a small part to the cost of oil,this cycle will return thus sparking the return of some outsourced jobs once wages have fallen far enough in the united states..
history will once again repeat itself and out sourced jobs will return to the once great united states..

 

read Russian wikipedia about atomic missile shield. You will be suprised. Again it is about an oil!!! This time the fields between USA and Russia. All article is about it.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Противоракетная_оборона_США

Isn't that funny that each country page is about something totally different?

 

I'm having a hard time seeing this cycle repeating considering the sense of entitlement that most Americans carry. I can't see very many of the people in todays society throwing out low-bids for jobs like they did around the time of the great depression.

Also, the key word in that very well put statement is "some" as in 'the return of some outsourced jobs'.

Not 'a majority' or 'a good percentage'. Just some.

Are the few jobs that will return, which would likely be temporary, really enough to say that the continuing pillaging of the average person, in the manner of gas prices, is a good thing?