As December 21, 2012 approaches....

You can all take this or leave this but i had a dream... several weeks ago now... and in my dream people were out in the middle of the street and even my dad was looking out the window baffled so i remember looking out the window... and my old man was saying how can there be 2 suns in the sky???? When I woke up I knew I was gonna forgert it so I wrote it down...

I have done a fair deal of research and it would appear a planet called planet x or Nibiru is one its way and it will cross our solar plane and eclipse witht he sun ironically enough sometime in 2012... ive been going around saying this for a few weeks and people have been laughing at me... as it turns out last week nasa said they wanted to have a press conference on the 14th thats tomorow. SO i look frorward to hearing about this big discovery...

 

i too had a dream, of people out in the street looking up at the sky and speculating wildly with each other, only mine was quite some time ago, and what they were seeing, was a sky filled from horizon to horizon with 'flying saucer' space ships, no two of them alike, and truely because no two of were from the same world and culture as each other.

all here to welcome us into a kind of galactic united nations, because we had finally grown up enough to qualify.

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uhm i almost want to post ... ok mr lunatic... but in my readings i have come across some conspiracy claims that there is some type of galactic federation in existence...

i must say i remain skeptical but open to that one. thanks for the info my friend

 

1 of 3 things are going to happen: and it is just a matter of when

World War 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8....we (countries) all have been at war since the beginning of civilization...soon it will reach the heights of nuclear warfare, or complete hostile take over of the super powers (US, China, ect...)...it would be pretty easy with todays technology and equipment....AND the big question is would it be a collusive take over meaning "martial law" in each of the countries (the US isn't too far from it)????? pay attention....the world's populations grows each day and new strategies of housing, food, health have to be thought of on a daily basis.....


Mother Nature is eff'n pissed - the human species has destroyed the world's environment for the last 100 years and we show now sign stopping anytime soon...well guess what the earth has been around for billions thats right billions of years when the only living organism was bacteria..... and I think she will kill us before we kill her

1 or 2 is more likely to happen before 3 - A big ass meteor taken us out Armegeddon....


those are my thoughts...I have plenty of evidence to back those theories but I'm not here to right a book. Don't take anything for granted!

 

i will second the "don't take anything for granted" emotion.

but wars? depends on what scale you're talking about.
has humanity been continuously at war since it started building cities?
maybe. but didn't the invention of the airplane make cities sitting targets instead of the defensive strongholds they had previously been?
why assume population won't colapse from some yet to be forseen mercy? or that a populas, awaikened by evolving realities reaching points of critical mass that cannot be ignored, among other things, comes to reguard cities as obsolete, as indeed they are.

what is predictable, though not perhapse as to its exact timetable, is the depletion of economically viable petrolium reserves, the many effects of global climate chainge which are only begining to be felt, and many undoubtedly remain, yet to be immagined. i think what a lot of people aren't 'getting', is that they don't have to be visibly dramatic within short periods of time, to be profound in their effect and implications. add to those, the all but inevitable collapse of currencies, especially the most historically dominant currency ever, internationally. as a reasult both of the combination of these other two factors, and of pilling up consiquences of miscalculations motivate be over reaching and self blinded greed. or rather the automatic proccess of corporate capitolism to persue the concentration of symbolic value, with out reguard to any real world consiquence of doing so what so ever.

concatinate THESE REAL three factors, and you don't NEED wars or commits, to see a world profoundly chainged beyond the edges of common and familiar perceptions.

and concatinate they will. 2012 is just a number, but these trends are real and irresistable, with or without anyone cheering them on.

nor any other claim of credit for them.

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yes they seem to think that, mainly in the west. funny

 

"humans now have almost absolute control" ... of absolutely nothing.

what humans now have, besides a near critical mass of their own excess numbers, is an obsessive preoccupation with a kind of collective intellictual masterbation.

while it is true that our numbers are so bloated we can't blow our nose without knocking over a tree, and that like dominoes knocking over who knows what all else in the interlocking intricacy of natures cycles of renewal, control implies both conscous intent and that intent being implimented by actions that can be predictably counted upon to produce a DESIRED (and known, at least approximately) resault.

in THAT sense, no, we are not in (conscous) "control" of ANYthing!

we just know that everything we do causes SOME thing to happen. but we DON'T really know or understand enough, to completely choose and acurately predict ALL of its possible outcomes, or even which among the combination of those we know and don't, will specifically prove the most profound.

and that of course is precisely the problem. we can choose things locally, and have some idea what we're doing in that sense, but the things that go unaccounted for, because they don't intrest an all too often all to narrowly focused intent, can and do come back to haunt us. may, could, even prove our undoing entirely, as indeed, many cultures, and not just the exploited ones, have been all but, or even totally, wiped out in the proccess.

we're not dealing with a simple clockwork that is direct and linear. reality and the universe doesn't work that way. neither by the appeasement of sentient objects of collective speculation.

there are definite patterns to how things work. but those paterns ARE statistical rather then linear, for the most part in their nature.

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I agree with Themnax's statement before if war is not being used as it is meant to be, a fight/struggle between two nations or parties for religious, or economical beliefs or whatever.......then what are all these wars going on for????? Are they being used as distractions??? Are these wars a fake front for other collusive activities going on between governments.....The clues are out, information has leaked in several ways but who is to really know....I mean why does the US currently have 325,000 americans/people held captive in concentration camps currently today???? There are so many questions that need to be answered.....

Be sure to take care of your family, children, and your assets, because we do not know what tomorrow will bring....I wake up everyday thankful I have my health, and my family, and we are financially OK.

 

2012? End of the world?

There is no 2012. It is a concept, a figment of the imagination which can evoke thoughts and feelings that people shape their own existence towards. The future too, is a mere concept. It creates hopes, dreams and goals to head towards, which in turn provoke emotions, including dissapointment, fear, anxiety and anger which in turn provoke hatred, separation and suffering. There is no future, only the ever present NOW. There is nothing else except this very moment, and the potential of creation through consciousness.

 

I somewhere have this feeling that something bad is about to happen, everything is going out of balance, the good lives we have now are almost untrue, there is to much contrast between everything.
It is a unexplainable feeling, maybe a instinct, like animals can feel a earthquake coming, it somewhere feels like the silence before a storm, and if this storm will struck it's going to be a bloody one.

It's is not because everyone says, it will happen in 2012 or whatever, i don't really believe that myself, even tho, i do believe that in the coming years drastic changes are coming.

 

i dont know but my guess is airforce one will be arnie's new toy

 

The main reason that there is hype about December 21, 2012, is because on that day, our Sun aligns with the Galactic center for the first time in about 26000 years.

Its the beginning of a new Galactic day. I believe in astrology because we live in a universe made up of stars and other celestial objects, why wouldn't their movements affect us?

I believe that in the days leading up to 12/21/2012 that we could see a couple things. Escalation of war in the middle east for one, with more attacks on Iran, and possibly even an Islamic Revolution to oust the invading armies.

Because Iran would put up a fight... and NEVER underestimate the Islamic faith. But, I also think that we may see events leading to a rise of the "New World Order," which is actually on the verge of becoming reality, with the North American Union solidifying, and there is also an Eastern Asian Union and African Union in the works. And the European Union formed already. It wouldn't be that hard to take control.

There may be a revolution in response to this challenge for global domination, which may ultimately lead to a bitter and bloody war.

Then again, I always hope that 12/21/2012 will pass without incident, that we can keep living our lives the way we do now. But if we are to divert potential disaster, it would be a good idea to live well. I wouldn't say go wild and crazy, I mean by being repectful and kind to people, because the only way you can really affect the world is with your actions and re-actions, and it is better to bring a bit of happiness, than to perpetuate the cycle of negativity and dispair.

 

i think that the reason why we have never seen time travelers is because you can only travel forward through time. I'm no expert but i have read up on the theory of relativity and other science-y stuff, and i can only make logical sense of traveling into the future. You cannot change the past, only the future.

 

2012 is the end of an age, not a world. i am assuming, since i wasnt there last time, that this is not the first age to end, so again i assume that a new one will begin shortly afterwords. i am almost certain that the beer you buy at the end of this age will still be good at the beggining of the next. this theory can probably be extrapalated to other things, and thoughts, u have, although, time and ages are marked by things that happen outside this planet in the surrounding solar system/systems. and there is much debate as to whether those things will have enough influence to create a shift in our axis, which has happened in the past when ages end. so items you have at the end of this age which are larger than a beer may not make it to the beggining of the next.

 

Until time travel gets invented/discovered, you can't travel into the past or the future. That's why we haven't seen time travellers. We'll see them after we have time travel.

2012 is in our future, not yet in our past (when 2013 comes around, send me a link to this post and say "I told you so" hehe)
But for people of the 22nd, 23rd (and so on) centuries, 2012 is in their past.
Suppose somebody somewhen has resolved all the problems involved in travelling into their past (back as far as, say, 2012)
You cannot change the past, as you rightly said. But suppose, for future time travellers, they could? Their history books that they read in school would tell of what happened in 2012, much as ours tell of 1492



If you want an analogy, imagine that we are living two hundred years ago and we're discussing the possibility of the horseless carriage and the ability to travel at speeds faster than thirty miles per hour. It can't be done, it's impossible, where would you put the hay? Let's have another laugh at that mad guy who thinks a giant metal bird could actually fly!!!

See? My point here is - what do we know about it? Me and you. Nothing much really.

 

In order for time travel to work , you would have to have a machine to materialize in. Example , to go from 2003 to 1986 , you would hav eto have a time machine setup up in a location somewhere in teh year 1986. Atleast that's how one theory states it. Keep in mind that the very concept of time travel is simply a theory.

On December 21 , 2012 , our solar system will be precisely aligned with the center of our Milky Way galaxy. Who knows what will happen ?