Asperger's Syndrome

Leave me alone proximo. Just leave me alone.

 

I have something small to add. Asperger’s is not treated with meds it is treated with behavioral therapy. It is not a form of ADHD although kids who have Asperger’s can have ADHD; there are many disorders that can be co-morbid with Asperger’s (sometime the other accompanying disorders need med. Treatment). I have thousands of hours of research and written about Asperger’s. Like many disorders, it shows a variance of symptoms. For the most part Asperger’s can be seen when children reach late adolescents and their teens, most of the time it does not show up before this. I can give you a lot more information if any one is interested.

 

I was just diagnosed with ASD and while I do not have all the symptoms, it pretty much explains certain personality and social characteristics that I have

 

How is Aserger's syndrome diagnosed differently then a normal person who just has a really high IQ and doesn't want to fit in with a normal crowd of people for intellectual reasons? or is having a really high IQ considered a disorder, too?

 

What makes in a disorder is that people with Asperger's can not express them selves it goes beyond shy. Having hi IQ is not a symptom it is just typical the people with Asperger's have IQ. The best way to explain it is that when a person with Asperger's listens to a conversation they think that they are adding to it but in reality they don't say anything outloud it is all in their head. It's not a matter of wanting to fit in the can't.

 

No I had never heard that before. Thanks for the info!

Peace and love

 

I'm sorry but ADHD is not a mild form of Autism it is not an Autistic spectrum disorder. It is completly different.

 

Wow! Lots of contradicting information! No surprise b/c none of us are trained pyschologists! That's why one should get their diagnosises from a doctor rather than asking us what's wrong with them! (Sorry, off topic side note!)

There maybe a chance that I do have a mild form of Asberger's syndrome. I have some of the symptoms as well as a doctor who suspected but never diagnosised that. What self help can one do to help correct the symptoms?

Peace and love

 

How do you know?? I do have a degree in psychology

 

http://www.psychologynet.org/add.html this describes ADHD and http://www.psychologynet.org/autism.html describes autism these are from the DSM-IV which is a psychological guideline for diagnosis.

 

It's amazing how many people buy into the establishment's definition of "disorders." The only reason Asperger's is a "disorder" is because it prevents people from adequately serving the system like the rest of the population mindlessly do. The system HATES individuality. In a sane world, it would not be a disorder because in reality it's just another way of thinking. Because it goes against what society wants, it's a disorder that requires treatment so those afflicted can become one in the herd.

Psychiatrists are merely dupes serving the system, making the pharmaceutical companies richer and richer by prescribing needless, harmful drugs for things that exist only in the journals of mental health funded by the very same drug companies.

 

No offense, but a BA or BS in psychology doesn't equal however many years in med school to become a doctor. That's why I would trust a pyschiatrist (PhD/MD) who has met me personally rather than most people on this site regarding medications and diagnosises. I mean, my boyfriend is minoring in psychology and I still wouldn't go to him for a diagnosis. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Peace and love

 

It takes 6 years or so to get a PhD in Psychology thank you. That is for psychology and not psychiatry where you have to go to medical school and all they have is about 6 months to a year of training when it comes to mental health. I don't like to see people confused about these things because it can be bad for them to think they have something they don't so I try to help give a good explanation that can be understood. I was not diagnosing anyone I was just clarifying the difference between ADHD and Autism because they are very different.

Pressed Rat... I am sorry that you think that mental disorders are bunk... Most mental disorders don't have to be treated by meds. If you knew a person with Autism or Asperger's you would understand that. I wouldn’t be doing what I am if it didn’t help make people better and happy with their lives.

 

No, I am quite aware certain mental disorders are real. But it seems like they have a name designated for every type of personality that doesn't conform to what society says is normal. Most of what they call "personality disorders" are simply people who think differently than the rest of us, who are unable to cope with the unnatural, inhumane society we live in. These people are probably more in-touch with themselves and the world around them than the people who have been conditioned to enjoy being part of the ratrace.

 

I know and really enjoy people who think differently. It is more than just view points and actions that cause something to be called a disorder. It is hard sometime to really know what is true about disorders and what symptoms really are with the media, TV and movies always labeling things that are not real or factual.

 

I always felt left out in life because I wasn't able to join the rat race. I like being my own individual self with a unique view of the world. But it's gets depressing not being able to do the same things as everyone else.

 

The sad thing about this thread is that no one has given a full definition of aspergers yet. I mean even the person who has it doesn't even know how to describe it.

 

Did you check the link? I am not a doctor so I will not pretend to be one by giving a full definition on something I know little about. Here is what the dsm iv criteria is for diagnosis:

AS correlates with Asperger's Disorder defined in section 299.80 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) by six main criteria. These criteria define AS as a condition in which there is:

1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction;
2. The presence of restricted, repetitive and stereotyped behaviors and interests;
3. Significant impairment in important areas of functioning;
4. No significant delay in language;
5. No significant delay in cognitive development, self-help skills, or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction); and,
6. The symptoms must not be better accounted for by another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.[4]

AS is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), one of five neurological conditions characterized by difference in language and communication skills, as well as repetitive or restrictive patterns of thought and behavior. The four related disorders or conditions are Autism, Rett syndrome, childhood disintegrative disorder, and PDD-NOS (pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified).[5]

The diagnosis of AS is complicated by the use of several different screening instruments.[5] The diagnostic criteria of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual are criticized for being vague and subjective.[6][7] Other sets of diagnostic criteria for AS are the ICD 10 World Health Organization Diagnostic Criteria, Szatmari Diagnostic Criteria,[8] Gillberg Diagnostic Criteria,[9] and Attwood & Gray Discovery Criteria.[10] The ICD-10 definition has similar criteria to the DSM-IV version.[10] Asperger's syndrome had at different times been called Autistic psychopathy and Schizoid disorder of childhood.[11], although those terms are now understood as archaic and inaccurate, and therefore no longer accepted in common use.

Some doctors believe that AS is not a separate and distinct disorder, referring to it as high functioning autism (HFA).[5] The diagnoses of AS or HFA are used interchangeably, complicating prevalence estimates: the same child can receive different diagnoses, depending on the screening tool the doctor uses, and some children will be diagnosed with HFA instead of AS, and vice versa.[5] Many experienced clinicians apply the early onset on High Functioning Autism or the regressive pattern of development as the distinguishing factor in differentiating between AS and HFA. The current classification of the pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs) is unsatisfying to many parents, clinicians, and researchers, and may not reflect the true nature of the conditions.[12] Peter Szatmari, a Canadian researcher of PDD, feels that greater precision is needed to better differentiate between the various PDD diagnoses. The DSM-IV and ICD-10 focus on the idea that discrete biological entities exist within PDD, which leads to a preoccupation with searching for cross-sectional differences between PDD subtypes, a strategy which has not been very useful in classification or in clinical practice.

Would like to read more on it? Just google it. There is plenty more info where that came from.

Peace and love

 

I already googled it about 5 months ago. I was just saying that for a thread based on aspergers no one until this point had given a proper definition. But thanks anyway.

 

I've been an outsider all my life and have never felt depressed. I have never wanted to fit in, let alone be accepted in a peer group. I have always shunned the very idea of that. I love being a loner and would have it no other way. I don't want to do the things other people do because the things other people do is not my thing. It's THEIR thing, and that's what makes me different from all the rest.