Astrology - Fact or fiction?

yea, it sounds very very inaccurate to me. "Maybe the gravity has a slight affect on chemicals and such in your brain while you're developing?" HOW ???

 

How wouldn't it? Gravity affects everything...

 

what happens when u go on the moon?

 

What causes the tide to change?

 

Being farther away from the earth, you are less affected by it's gravity... And the moons is not as strong.... But they both still have an effect...

 

lol so how does it affect the fact that im gonna meet mister right or not?

cuz i mean, thats what astrology tells u. if its gonna happen and all that bs

 

Thousands of years of observation? And it does not tell you what will happen, merely hints at various... Shit I can't think of a good term for it... Influences... There are many influences, and of course they can affect each other... So it makes for a broad sprectrum of likely possibilities... Hehe I'm not sure I can properly explain it...

 

yea i was just using an example here (the mister right thing i mean)
so if it only tells u about hints at various vague influences, then its totally unreliable. QED

 

But for me at least, it's been fairly accurate... I still can't properly explain it though, I've never really bothered to try putting it into words... Besides any astrology report that said at such and such time you will meet mister right is probably crap...

 

no offence but it probably told u what u wanted to hear. that is all.

astrology is also one big market that sells dreams to pple. its like believing in love potions or a higher power. its easier to think u can rely on something u cant actually explain

 

Haha I've never bought anything related to astrology though... Mostly just read about it and figured things out for myself... Plus it was not just what I wnated to hear, but it actualy was accurate...

 

So what's your sign? An earth sign perhaps?

 

Well...then why was astrology so accurate in my family? Crayola? It actually did fortell all that stuff.

Yeah....probably earth...or maybe some air sign. My vote's taurus, Libra, or gemini!

 

Even if it were possible to predict the future, what would be the point? IMO it is life's little daily surprises that make life worth living.When you watch a movie, you don't want someone giving the entire plot away for you in advance do you?

 

You have as yet to come up with an accurate apraisal of me.But there again I am a hippy ( not really surprising that I am active in Hipforums) so it would be difficult to make any appraisal of me.

 

Just an aside here but most good astrologers I know have IQ's in the Mensa range (137+ on the Cattell scale in the USA). They are not weak-minded individuals, not to say many silly people believe in astrology, and there is a lot of silliness surrounding the subject.
But once again Kandahar all we seem to get are non-sequiturs from you.
Please read something on logical fallacies and PLEASE read something about astrology so that your opinions are at least worth reading as opposed to your present status.

 

Astrology PROBABLY does not work because of gravity, or at least the force as we understand it at present.
Undoubtedly however the Solar System is gravitationally interactive, and should you remove a planet it would cause a shift in the orbits of all System residents with calamitous results for us here.

The Moon for example does not move on it's own, and the Earth and Moon are a duo locked in a kind of cosmic dance. The moon has influence over the tides and cloud formation. But astrologically the Moon rules the 28 day menstrual cycle in human females, and women have their cycle either when the Moon occupies its position at birth or the square or opposition to it.

Astrologically the planets and Sun and Moon do not CAUSE anything, any more than a clock CAUSES time. They simply measure and reflect the cycles that interact here from our perspective.

 

I find that difficult to believe. I've never heard of a single scientifically-minded person who accepts the claims of astrology. Why do nearly 100% of astronomers and physicists reject its claims? After all, experts like those should be the most likely of anyone to see the truth in it...if it were true.

I'm quite well-versed and understand logical fallacies quite well. In fact, the scientific method coupled with an understanding of logical fallacies are enough to point to the opposite conclusion you have drawn. Why is there no serious scientific inquiry in this field? If it really worked, scientists would be clamoring to understand it better!

But they aren't, because astrology fails every experimental test you can possibly pose. It's not because there's a conspiracy to silence heretical ideas (science is very much open to change). It's not because you know the truth better than the scientists. It's because your claims are simply false. What passes as "evidence" to astrologers would hardly hold up even to an open-minded jury, let alone the scientific community.

Here are just a few logical fallacies astrologers routinely commit:

- Appeal to ignorance ("There's no compelling evidence that astrology is NOT true [also an inaccurate premise], so it must be true!")

- Observational selection, or 'counting the hits and forgetting the misses' ("My horoscope was dead-on yesterday! Never mind that it was wrong every day last week.")

- Post hoc ergo propter hoc ("A major assassination of a world leader happened yesterday when Saturn was at a certain place in the sky. Therefore, Saturn's position caused the assassination.")

- Straw man ("Scientist hate astrology because it predicts what they cannot.")

This is by no means a comprehensive list of the logical fallacies astrologers commit. But it is an accurate sampling, and should indicate their disdain for the scientific method.

 

I agree with you Kandahar.It is inductive reasoning that makes people believe in Astrology.They should try deductive reasoning.Look in the encyclopaedias under scientiific reasoning.

 

Bilby I do not wish to be rude but frankly that is nonsense!


In fact it is your own deductive error in your thinking that forces you to conclude that inductive reasoning is involved.

If you knew anything about astrology you would not say silly things like this.