atheists are the most distrusted and disliked of all minority groups

I think there is some truth in this. Take our president, for example. Half the country mistakenly believes he is a muslim and that gives plenty of people ample reason to dislike him. Nevermind that this country was founded on freedom of religion, that obviously only means freedom of religion within the Christian religion.

I feel as if he would be even more hated if he were atheist, however. The Americans that believe he is muslim at least find comfort in the fact that he believes in God, even if its not the same God that begot Jesus. I think many people find atheism threatening to their way of life.

 

yeah my aunt is a crazy Catholic and she thinks atheists are crazy devil worshipers.

It is wrong that mainstream America is so against atheism, however, I feel it is the place of the atheists to educate people of the truths of their religion and belief system. I think people are so against it because they know nothing about it.

 

WRONG. It's barefooters, some places I can't even fucking buy food

 

As a Christian, I decided to check out a local atheist group to get a better perspective on my own religion. I didn't know what to expect. My pre-ecounter stereotypes were close to your aunt's. But I found them to be a good group, easy to get along with, and for the most part, decent people with good family values. Atheism isn't a religion, or even much of a "belief-system". It's simply a disbelief in God. Fundamentalists who equate faith with belief in doctrines and think that a belief in God is a necessary condition for morality and meaning, assume that non-believers must be either immoral or lost in a meaningless existence. I don't think God gives a rat's ass whether or not people believe in him, as long as they try to be good, loving people.

 

6 billion apes confused about their own identity; I hope no one was surprised by these results.

 

I couldn't of put it a better way myself.

 

Naah, I don't think so. I can't condone atheists for the the way they argue on the internet about the failure of God in allowing the people to be moral and loving attempts at overcoming the prude life and just accepting themselves as wicked in a time of indifference to succeed at making out the world.

God simply fails this and the world is pessimistically an unbelievable place of hatred. Not everybody can be existential and survive with his heart in such a world.

Atheists too often feel that the good God they could aspire to is justifying
a very cynical attitude to human nature.

Give me.

 

God doesn't allow, or fail at anything.... because he doesn't exist.

It would be strange if an atheist didn't argue something similar.

 

A subject exists. A subject doesn't exist. which way then? The subject existing simplified your World for refusal; the vigilant waiting ignored the God of history; nevertheless, that god was real as all the religions claimed to originate in the God, Jehovah. He whoever He was fails as a subject, not as an object. The subject not-existing had the atheist in guilt denial (O.K., maybe there needed to be no guilt); the world presented objectivity of Objects; an aspiration, a purpose for conscience, spiritualizing the situation as if it had no basis for the moment of the ecstatic Being. It did because the situation was, beyond ethical, momentary for a mass of people. The Situation was for the temporal eventuality of purpose for Events, absolutely non-existence of Subjects in the future.

I could beleive that St. Thomas Aquinas the Existence of the future (Much of the non-controlled as opposed to the controlled) proves that Gode exists.

 

But I annoy Nietzsche with the Reasonable Negating of the Subject. The presence of how we experience they have destroyed on Me. At once the unchanging god subjectifies with the negating of His existence. A lunatic said better that God was Dead. At least I distrust Nietzsche too.

 

Well, you're certainly annoying me with your off-topic gibberish...

ZW :elf:

 

Hey, did you know that women do exist as an alternative form of the point of subject/object inference of Otherness. But how does one make up a believable Subject for that one?:sultan:

 

would you start making sense?

or stop posting?

 

You're not an atheist, Wa Bluska... are you?

 

if by atheist you mean a person who does not believe in the god of the bible or his son as manifestation of same?

then yes, i am

this is not to say i am not open to less flamboyant forms of the supernatural

[thank you for being direct]

 

I pretty much echo bluska's explanation, 'cept I would have said something more like;

I am for all practical purposes atheist, but this is not to say that I'm not open to more subtle forms of extra-normal energys...

Its really that I've come to realize "Atheist" is just a poison word.

also these, in order of diminishing toxicity:

anarchist
socialist
free-thinker
agnostic...

ZW

 

zw, you getting ready for spear-hunting season?

the lowest thing you can call anyone is montana state legislator . . .

 

tru dat!

Hey, did I tell you I'm no longer a politician?
I resigned my position on the council since I moved out of the county.
Big relief for me, politics is definitely not my bag. :afro:

ZW

 

^^^ i'd guessed as much

don't you want to fight for concealed carry in bars?

as mrs wica rightly points out, in the so-called 'old west' this sort of crap would have been seen as dangerous and stupid - and rightly so . . .

the 'shootout at the ok corral' was about the right to keep tombstone unarmed - montana is going back to an unknown past . . .

 

Yep... but check this paradoxical twist; unlike Oregon and several other western states, a switchblade knife is still considered an illegal weapon in Montana... I have no idea how the hell can any knife could be more lethal than a concealed handgun .. go figure.
The whole "West Side Story" thing musta really freaked out them gun totin' redneck legislators :cowboy: and they've never forgotten it!

ZW