You make a good point. I suppose my bias comes from the fact that I think I'd be happier if I could believe in (insert religion here). It would be nice to not be so torn up and always wondering 'What is the nature of existence?' Also, the feeling that no matter how shit your life is at any given moment, there is a loving figure watching over you and orchestrating your destiny for some greater purpose. The idea that this all means something. But I just don't fucking buy it. As for religious people being just as fucked up as any douchebag atheist... I suppose that it's just human nature to manipulate any given ideal for your own greedy/selfish/hateful reasons.
Flying Sky Daddy... Yes.. that is priceless. Yeah atheists piss me off sometimes. They can be very ignorant. Christians can too though. Buddhists also. Whatasurprise. Wow...just about anyone can piss me off I realized. They all do it equally and not too much anyways.
I'd say I wholeheartedly agree with the OP; pretty much has been my stance from the start on religion. I've met some good Christians -- the rare ones who seem to pick up the "messages" behind the stories Bible has to offer.. aka the ones who live good honest lives and honestly know what the words "neighbor" and "brother" means when in a loving sense. And then the other ones like you describe, the ones that believe their supposed faith in God gives them a notch on their belt that puts them above everybody else. These are the ones that seem to remind you that your lack of faith is going to have you cooking shortly after you die. Doesn't seem to Christian-like? Does it? To use fear tactics on others? :| Rofl, and then for what you're actually talking about, the "so-called Atheists". They are just the same thing in my last example with a different set of beliefs-- in these rare cases. The ones who can't respect that some people just have faith and aren't obsessed with existential theories and finding out some so-called "ultimate" truth "Does a God exist?" Can't be proven either way. You really summed up the way I've always felt in a few lines. Can't know for sure until you're dead, and even when you're dead, you either understand or there's no more YOU there to care about the whole thing. It seems empty, but it's just there to accept. Humans created this life and death obsession, it's a tough one to walk out of. But eliminates 500% of the stress that comes with being an adult imo. Not shit worth deadening yourself over. People get wacked out with faith whether they're believers or non-believers half the time. If what you believe in is making you unable to tolerate and accept the people your put on earth with, time to find something else to believe in really. No point in getting stressed out. People fall into the trap of trying to convert everybody else when they find a faith that pokes their interest. Then comes the die-hard nazi christian stage where you're standing out at the Big E/ some equally big Circus handing out mini Bibles with a sign that says Believe or Burn. Lol man I could go on and on. I can see why tragic comedy's are such an amazing art form. It really is all laughable.
I know the meaning of life, but if I told you, it would ruin the surprise. Usually people with deep convictions are pretty irritating. People without convictions are loathsome, and people who keep them to themselves are a bore. Usually it's better to be a bore. Unless the suckers are asking for it.
Christian v. christian. I understand your pain. (you have not seen my ranting on the subject, but it's much the same thing)
I don't know what is out there, so I have a hard time picking one faith and sticking to that. So basically I just try to be a decent person, and if there is anyone to answer to at the end of it all, I can truthfully say that I did my best. All this "do what you want and then ask for forgiveness to erase it all" is sick and twisted.
good thread. first few pages will likely be neat. Beyond that, it'll go to shit. Someone's gonna get offended. I do like what I've read so far, though.