Attack on Boston Marathon

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  1. odonII

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    Oh right, I thought you were from England - you just said something like: 'I could care less'...so then I thought you were American.

    There are CCTV all over the place here, but generally, it seems, on the sides of buildings and in shops - criminality and intruder prevention etc. They are not owned by the government. There does not seem to be that many watching us walk around the streets etc - which would be owned by the government. The only places I see them covering neighborhoods, is where there is a lot of crime. I don't believe the government routinely monitors everybody at all times, and runs everybody's face through facial recognition etc. I do know they 'catalogue' everybody and share info etc - such as the DVLA and the NHS - and thank god they do.

    On topic - I'm glad our Marathon went ok. I suppose there was very little chance of the same thing occuring.
     
  2. odonII

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    Apparently so - six years ago. I think that was from the Daily Mail - and we all know how they are with information.

    I imagine Barking has quite a lot more 'government' CCTV than Leicester.
    I just read they once had 'talking CCTV' - which was quite funny.
    I can see how some might get a little paranoid about this.
    I think you can go a little barking mad about it, though *chuckle*
     
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  4. Resistance isn't futile

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    I try to choose words and expressions that the americans can understand.

    The governments love buying but not the cost of owning. It's the bee's knees for them this model because they get to escape public scrutiny and avoid legislation.

    And personally I have a map of all the cameras in my area and I just don't go any place they're located. Not even to the pound store.
     
  5. Karen_J

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    Then please try to limit yourself to grunts and simple hand gestures.
    :leaving:
     
  6. odonII

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    Bizarre - but fair enough.

    I'm not sure what you mean.

    Care to share? I couldn't find a map of all the CCTV in my area.
     
  7. skip

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    Check this out!

    Israelis say the Boston Bombers were double agents. Likely employed by CIA & Saudis to uncover Chechen terror network. Another blowback.

    That would explain a lot! Like why the FBI closed their file, and why the younger brother was given a scholarship he didn't qualify for.

    Israelis also point out that Boston bomber is being attended by Israeli physicians in Beth Israel hospital. And that Israeli physicians are also helping Al-Qaeda rebels at the Syrian border.

    http://www.debka.com/article/22914/...double-agents-who-decoyed-US-into-terror-trap

    Another interesting piece of the puzzle, one I expected, is the parents saying their sons had financial troubles. Perhaps the CIA stopped paying them when they didn't produce any Intel on the Chechen network after visiting Russia for six months. So then they turned on the US?
     
  8. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Does this source have any credibility?
     
  9. skip

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    Does the CIA have any credibility?
     
  10. Karen_J

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    Problem #1: UMass-Dartmouth is definitely not an "elite American college in Cambridge". It's not affiliated with the Ivy League's famous Dartmouth College.

    But it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the older brother was playing some kind of a complicated game with mulitple organizations. It's obvious he considered himself a lot smarter than he really was.
     
  11. Resistance isn't futile

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    1) Perhaps I'm not being quite polite in what I'm about to say but. Americans tend to like things expressed in simple words they commonly use.

    2) I got my map at a feminar organised by the London feminist network.
     
  12. odonII

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    Along with a dozen or so people who were injured in the blast. From what I've read it's a level 1 facility - I think being shot or blown up is a level 1 case.

    When you say 'Israeli's' - what do you mean? A person from Israel? A Israeli based news site?
     
  13. odonII

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    Resistance isn't futile

    1. That's unfair.

    2. Somebody actually went around the whole of Barking - in every shop etc and placed that on a map? Is there not much to do in Barking? o_O

    (we are off topic now - so I will just say: fair enough)
     
  14. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    this sounds like a giant load of horseshit. I didn't read the whole article, but I think that they just refer to their "counterterrorism and intelligence sources", which I think is just another way of saying that they just pulled it out of their ass.

    one phrase stands out that makes clear that the author of this article is a moron: "What was the exact purpose of the Boston Marathon bombings and their aftermath at MIT in Watertown?"
     
  15. newbie-one

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    not only is UMass Dartmouth not an elite american college, it's nowhere damned near cambridge
     
  16. Karen_J

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    You know what's going to happen now. By the end of the week, there will be a dozen conflicting theories about who controlled/influenced the older brother. By the end of May, half a dozen of the theories will become hardcover books. None of them will ever be conclusively proven/disproven, and people will still be arguing about it ten years from now.

    Bottom line is, two guys set off some bombs in public, seriously hurt a bunch of people, killed 3 (+1 by gunfire), and accomplished nothing. Whatever cause they believed in or hated, nothing is going to change. It was all a waste.
     
  17. sunfighter

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    We do know now that the older brother had become a true believer in Islam in the last couple of years. There's an article in the Boston Globe today about him shouting down moderate speakers in the local mosque. Apparently he was never heard to advocate violence, however.
     
  18. Lynnbrown

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    These 2 young men simply did not and do not fit the profile of someone/s likely to perpetrate such heinous acts. The whole reasoning for them doing this for a political reason is flawed and skewed.

    The fact that these 2 seemingly fairly affluent, well-adjusted/normal and happy young men did this for absolutely no reason is more appalling than them doing it for religious or polical reasons.
     
  19. sunfighter

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    I think you are getting way ahead of what known about them. Jumping to conclusions is not good.
     
  20. skip

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    It's been established they had financial problems (perhaps why they robbed convenience store and a guy at ATM - no?). It doesn't seem like either had a job recently. Tamerlan was not "HAPPY" at all according to his friends. His brother might've been.

    You could just as easily pin an economic motive. It's wasn't done to make money, but no doubt that could've added to their anger. After all there's no anger in America these days over the economy, is there?

    And what's this about Tamerlan having murdered his "best" American friend and two others? The story is in the Daily Mail, another reliable source... ;)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...on-bomber-murdering-American-friend-2011.html
     

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