Banning guns

Do you think that the bear would have worried about the children of the father it was about to kill? You win my daily Darwin award. Congratulations.

 

i believe you are exactly right.

 

"Get a dog, get a knife, but get rid of gun"
"I don't know what's missing in the gun-nuts' psyches that they need to feel they have the power to kill"

 

How many family arguements end in murder because there was a gun in the house. If there had been no gun, no one would have died. At least without a good foot race first.(consider the merits of the knife)

 

I am for the banning of guns in my country, although having said that, I know how easy it is to get them on the black market, so is there really any point? Until and Unless we have effective controls in place to prevent black market arms we may as well leave the situation as it is....

 

my thought:

ban the sale, mass production, and mass importation of what you will,
but don't ban the possession of anything.

possession bans on anything only create an opportunity for entrapment and harrassment.

if you want there to be less of something in circulation, ban its sale, mass production and mass importation.

to ban possession without banning production and sale is a mindboddlingly monumental hypocracy.

this goes for anything and everything, not just guns, or mind altering substances.

personaly i aggree that most people would be better off without balistic side arms
and that we'd all be better off in none of them were being mass produced

i just don't think the way to actualy solve anything is to ban the possession of anything.

but i'll certainly support 100% a ban on the balisitc sidearms industry.
(and i wouldn't be opposed to one on the oil and automotive industries either)

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And just hgow many New Yorkers or people in the middle of L.A shoot birds with their pistol or revolver?

I garauntee that was death by someone who killed them unlawfully. Also your figures are all mixed up. Thats not 2,000,000, saved compared to 50000 dead - that is the gun thats involved 2,100,000 in acts of violence that could have been prevented.

check the british figures for gun crime where guns are outlawed
Amongst a population of 60 million thats about 1/5 the population of the USA so according to a balance of figures if britain had the gun we would have about 10,000 deaths

If the usa banned the gun, your figures according to that would be around 110,000 firearms offences with 115 dead compared to 50,000
that means in the usa 1 in every 6000 people is killed every year by a gun
in britain it is 1 in 2.7Million

 

Because of no guns in the uk

Death by a gun isnt it?

I love it when people try to defend 1 in 6000 murdered by the gun - thats not a crime its a fuckin war - HA HA HA !

 

Well stated.

 

Why, surely you dont want possession of childporn to be outside the scope of the law? Then why use the argument in a case about guns, either ban them or dont !

Theres no evidence that the police plant guns on people in the UK. Too many questions would be asked about where it came from and besides if your laws dont adequetly represent tyhe seriousness of entrapment then you change those as well dont you?

and obviously its possession too, that would be the icing on the cake without which there wouldnt be any icing

These are the figures I was working to by soadrocks

As far as britains crime death rate is concerned its low because it doesnt, by and large, involve the gun. Overall crime rose as soon as Britain started importing cheap heroin , from its fields in afghanistan, also USA's crack and cocaine from columbia. the fact is that Britains rise in crime is commensurate not with the banning of guns but with higher rates of drug abuse - they tally almost perfectly with only slight variables

 

No point in arguing with gun advocates. Guns equal penis extension. Can't argue with that.

 

True theyre like nazis and christians its all "la la la la la fingers in ears cant hear you la la la la"

Solution just let em keep killing each other soon there wont be any left

 

The figures speak for themselves
in the usa 1 in every 6000 murdered by a gun criminal
uk 1 in 2,700,000 killed by a gun criminal

I know where I'd prefer to be given a choice only of the UK or USA !


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Some people have uses for guns other than as tools of murder. It's nice to have one livin' out in sticks.

 

http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/page6.asp
97 was when britain banned the gun and 1998 saw a decrease in crime
You will see that between the years of 1998 and now the home office reports the above
But please dont take it that you can compare pre 1998 figures with those post 1998 because various offences were dropped others rolled into `1 and some were created

View of all crime but date pre 1998 annot be compared with post 1998 as the methods of calculation and the number of possible offences changed.
Some offences were dropped - some created and others re categorised

 

youre doing my head in.
You can play around with statistics all you like
but how are you going to present 1 out of every 6000 of your country men being killed every year by a gun?
Thats an appalling untennable figure and unless you are somehow magically going to be able to justify that I dont see what youre saying.

Are you telling me that in a population of only 300,000,000 that 50,000 gun deaths is acceptable. 1 in 6000 is acceptable are you insane?
if that were the british population and 1 in 6000 were being killed that would represent 10,000 deaths a year the size of 1 small town per year are you crazy or just bloodthirsty do you like that figure because the truth is the USA has got a problem its citizens cant control their own gun use

 

Ya wanna ban guns? Great idea. Then the only folks that will have them will be those who figure out a way to not have theirs taken from them. So there will still be guns.
Then the only thing they can do is to go door to door searching everybodies homes for guns. Great idea. Support the police state! And then there will STILL be guns, 'cause they will never find them all.

Ya wanna ban guns? Then take them away from the cops too.

Ya wanna ban guns? Then take them away from the military too. Then you'll have to make it a WORLD law, so the other guys won't have any either. So, that will require even more police and military to make sure nobody has any guns. And then the guys who managed to hide theirs good enough will get pissed and come out shooting, and the only way to fight that is more guns. Good excuse for the next big war, don't ya think?

 

All the facts and figures are tellin' me is that Americans are violent s.o.b's and british are gullible. Who the hell wants to live in any society where they busily think up new and improved ways to stick their heads up your ass and their nose in your business? Not enough laws already? I'd rather take my chances. Or move someplace where they don't think every damn thing about yer life has to be under a microscope.
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50,000??

Everything I've always read always stated normally between 15-20,000, granted that's alot, but that's a damn big difference from 50,000

 

woot for guns....im a guy with alot of redneck in me so i got to do it, and superlz i can kill someone without a gun