Being naked outside

You said exactly, "children shouldnt [sic] be exposed to nudity in public." Without qualifying that statement, that means all children shouldn't be exposed to all nudity anywhere on the planet including the children of nudist parents being exposed to the nudity of their own parents even at nude beaches. If that's not what you meant, then learn how to qualify your statements next time.

That aside, children of nudist parents are also taken to nude beaches. There are also non-nude children on such beaches. They all grow up fine.

Your contrived scenario and irrational fear are entirely your problems. The rest of society shouldn't cater to them nor should the government enforce your particular brand of morality or prudery.

Regardless, if you don't want some guy's dick in your kid's face, then don't let him wander off towards nude people, or stay away from places where nude people are likely to be. Simple.

 

theres what i said... i dont think i see in that statement that children of nudist parents grow up unfine... i mean that is what you said to me right? "children of nudist parents grow up fine" were your exact words... and i simply stated i never said they didnt... you proceeded to tell me i denied saying children shouldnt be exposed to nudity... your right, i sure said it... but wait i dont think i ever denied saying it... can you quote me denying that... nope... and if you caught the first part of my quote i actually defended nudists... your values and morals are different than mine... there is probably not one set of family values in this world that are the same... you go do your thing where its allowed and keep it that way... theres a place for it and thats that... you totally fucked up what i said... get it right next time you quote someone... i dont have any fears of naked people whatesoever... but in the society i live in people dont walk around nude... so i dont want my kid wondering why some old guys got his hairy balls and ass walkin down the street... he doesnt need to see it... MY belief... and im sure theres thousands that think just like me

 

oops, sorry for telling something wrong. I shouldn't talk about things i don't know exactly. I had this information from a nude hiking board i used to frequent some time ago, and the US guys there told they prefer to hike in national parks as nudity isn't forbidden there, also told about meeting park rangers without getting trouble. Maybe this were just particular cases.

sorry, i can't share this tenor. Since i was a baby, my family took me to summer vacations in nudist camp resorts until i was 14, and i guess i didn't suffer any damage from seeing tons of nude people in my childhood. Also my godson has seen me naked repeatedly through all years he grew up, as also some kids of friends, and i never had the impression i would harm them.

Just last weekend i did stay at some friends' and helped them doing some gardenwork and later we did relax in their garden. None of their children did express any demurs seeing me (and for some time their mother too) in the buff, quite the converse, the younger two ones did get off their rags too and obviously did enjoy this state a lot. Well, we had a wonderful sunny warm weekend, so it was like a fest to let the sunbeams caress your skin again after the months of cold and dark ;-)

The weekend before me and my friend did open our nude beach season with wonderful sunny weather as well, and of course there were children on the beach too. How would you propose to handle this? Have a towel with you all the time and wrap it around you hectically every time a kid gets near you? Sheer nonsense.

As long as you believe your body and soul is the greatest gift nature (or god, as you like it) gave to you, you will consider that there are no "bad" body parts by origin, right? So, ultimately, it isn'n so different to see a naked elbow, or a pussy, or a dick. Or touch it, as you said in your (very designed) example with your stumbling son. I guess it would be worse for him falling in a doggie do with his face than to graze some neat genital. Just my two cents.

Anyway, to put this right, i never would force someone to endure staying with naked me, if i feel she/he insn't comfortable with, no matter if adult or kid. I know to respect other's attitudes and moral concepts, and i'm no missionaring nudist.

 

No, I didn't. You said it. I quoted you.

A way change that would be to allow nudity everywhere.

What's wrong with him wondering that?
First you said that you don't want some guy's dick in your kid's face. Now you're saying that you don't even want your kid to SEE it. Your reason changed. If your kid is THAT close for it to be a concern, I don't understand how it's magically not a concern if the guy had on a speedo. Your kid would still be very close.

Why not?

And that matters because...? Having many people believe in something doesn't make it valid.

 

You are probably a little less likely to get in trouble there, especially in the more isolated areas, but you are still taking a chance. You could still encounter someone who would insist that the authorities take firm action against you. Unfortunately, we have a lot of religious people who think that taking off your clothes is worse than physically hurting someone. I know it's crazy, but...

 

barefoot quit twistin what im saying... you acting like im objectifying this issue and im not... i respect a nudist right to walk around where it is allowed to be done just as i would appreciate the respect of not having to see it where its not allowed... i just dont want to see it or my children to see it... point blank and theres nothing wrong with it... what makes your right more acceptable than my right? your saying that i proposed a child of a nudist would grow up messed up or something... i never said that... so no you did not quote me saying that... you quoted me saying that children should not be exposed to it... sorry if i worded it wrong and instead should have stated i dont want MY children exposed... and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way... but ther is something wrong with you for thinking i should raise my children the same as yours... so why should it be changed to allow nudity everywhere? because you want it that way? no sorry that is not how america works... your rights dont matter more than mine... you have the right to walk around naked wherever you want as long as its allowed just as i have the right to stay away from those places... it doesnt bother me at all to walk around a nude beach and not be offended... i wouldnt get naked but i wouldnt be bothered being there... i just wouldnt take my children with me... there is nothing wrong with that at all... your arguing a point that was never debated... all im saying is there is nothing wrong with me not wanting my children to see you walking around naked and you cant say your right is more important than mine

 

You still haven't explain why not.

The difference is that your right restricts my right.

I know. However, again, you still haven't explained what's wrong with children seeing nude people.

Why not?

Yes there is: it's irrational.

You don't understand how America works. The rights of the minority should never be trampled by the majority. It often falls to the courts to uphold this, however. The courts ended segregation and bans on interracial marriage. The fact that some people at the time didn't like that is just too damned bad: tough.

Yet again, why not? What exactly is wrong with children seeing nude people?

Until you can give a rational reason for that, yes there is something wrong with it.

 

It's been several years, but a friend and I were hiking Gray's and Torrey's peaks - two of Colorado's 14-ers (peaks above 14,000 ft (~4270 m)). Grays and Torreys are not technically challenging, but my body doesn't like it above about 13,000 ft (I get very lethargic).

Anyhow, on our way down, we saw a group of topless women heading up on an alternate, parallel trail! It was sort of shocking - not that there was anything wrong with it, but just that I wasn't used to seeing groups of topless women outdoors in public. Getting back to the topic, we were away from "civilization," away from kids, and enjoying nature. It's been my experience that most people who enjoy nature, especially in remote settings, have few hang-ups about nudity in any form. You get used to peeing, pooping, bathing, etc. all without the "luxury" of a bathroom door. So while I was surprised seeing the group of topless women, I didn't have any problem with it. I actually thought it was pretty cool they were comfortable doing so!

 

jesus christ

 

like you said "The fact that some people at the time didn't like that is just too damned bad: tough." you will never get your way... public nudity will never be allowed across the board so like you said too damned bad: tough... which means for that reason i dont have to explain myself seein as how ill never have to worry bout it

 

I've only been naked outside with people at certain times. Never something I've experienced by myself.

 

No, my guess is that you're not explaining yourself because you don't have a rational reason.

 

i dont have to have a rational reason you dumbass... i didnt grow up a nudist my parents didnt my grandparents and great grandparents... so mine wont either... you think everyone should think like you and your wrong... because i dont want it is my fuckin reason... my values are not the same as yours... your fuckin crazy man

 

Naturism is a way of life in harmony with nature characterised by the practice of communal nudity, with the intention of encouraging self-respect, respect for others and for the enviroment.
Greeting from Patagonia...
Duende

 

I agree Patagonia-Male, but it is of interest to me there is a nudist 'scene' way up there in the shadow of Cerro Fitz Roy. One of the most beautiful places in the world to strip and face the sun.But it was always so darned cold there (but still slept naked) when I hiked around Southern Patagonia with guides in 2000.

 

You're admitting irrationality and calling me a dumbass. Wow... just wow. I hope your kids decide to become naturists if for no other reason that to piss you off. Heh.

 

I'll go outside naked at night in the summertime, but never in daylight. I'm paranoid about getting skin cancer.

 

when i get a really small house, its going to be in the middle of the country and im going to have a pool and hang out outside naked. its been decided

 

Just make sure you have UV screening over the top of it

 

you still fail to understand everything that i said... you disagree with me just to disagree and no other reason... my point for calling you a dumbass... i said i dont want my children exposed to it... when they are not children anymore they are free to do what they want... and it wouldnt make me angry in the least... but they are children and children do as they are told until it is their time to make their own rational and logical decisions... you also fail to see in my posts that i never once degraded a nudist or defended someone who isnt... just have respect man thats all it is... have respect for the people who dont care to walk around and see naked people as i have respect for people who want to be naked in their own place and time its as easy as that