Bi guys----thoughts when you first "crossed the line"

We, as bisexuals, have something in common with both straight and gay folks. Not everyone seems to recognize this; we'd prefer to talk shit about what makes us different. There is no cure for ignorance and intolerance because there's no "cure" for being human. So, what do we do? Ignore the dumb shit; keep living your life the way you see fit; surround yourself with people that you don't have to explain yourself to because they get it and are open-minded and capable of rejoicing in our great diversity.

If you're paying attention to the dumb shit, you're not paying attention to how you should be living your life. Be better than those who would denigrate us.

 

Rise aloft beyond the ignorance and blindness of those far too opinionated and bigoted to see the truth that is glaringly bright before their eyes-------but-sadly-is so casually ignored; what really puzzles this guy is how certain people can be so IGNORANT as to think that "gay" and "bisexual" are ONE; society in general-as well as religious beliefs-in blind ignorance-has inflicted serious pain-hardships-----and anguish to countless people "caught in the crossfire" of an all-too-often "blind" and bigoted society---------------

 

When I worked in New York for nearly 25 years-it was clear that there was a great deal of blatant anti-gay feelings courtesy of the "straight contingent" which I encountered each workday (thankfully------none directed towards the fellow typing these words)-----I also heard QUITE unflattering (and just plain ignorant) snatches of talk regarding bisexual guys; hearing a bisexual gent referred to as a "half fag" was not only ignorant-but also totally bigoted-------and degrading------

 

Of course, I grew up hearing shit like this being uttered by people who clearly didn't understand. I also knew some guys who'd say shit like that - but would beg guys like me to blow them or, sometimes, to fuck them senseless. It exposed something I found interesting: What one says in public might not be the truth in private. Didn't matter if the guy in question was straight, gay, or secretly bi. If nothing else, it helped me learn to ignore what I would start calling "the dumb shit."

The guy who has the most to say that's derogatory is probably not telling the truth with his words; the guy who might say something and that's all he says is likely telling the truth with his words. The guy publicly calling bi guys faggots will, later, be on his knees and expertly sucking my cock because image and reputation is everything and if the crowd is spouting hate, well, you might not want to be the one not doing it lest they suspect that you are the thing they're hating.

In my personal experiences, I've heard this shit from gays more than anyone else. Straights don't have clean hands on this one but the major of straight people I knew were like, "Oh, you go both ways? That's nice - whatever floats your boat." Might say something about not hitting on them... which was sometimes an invitation to hit on them. Being called a fake bitch by gay men because I didn't want to be their boyfriend - but they wanted my dick to suck or buried in their ass.

You learn to not have time for the dumb shit. You pity the ignorant person who is only parroting the hatred they were taught to have. There's no escaping it but you don't have to let yourself get caught up in it.

 

KDaddy23: Another excellent and intelligent post------and I read you loud and clear; it was not until I was getting ready to retire in 2004 that I started to pick up that at least a few of the straight guys were-at least-bi curious-----I would usually either hear these guys talking to one of their buddies-or-once in awhile-asking yours truly questions about sex between guys-etc; I would honestly reply that-being celibate-I had NO inkling of what guy/guy sex was like in actuality-----BUT I did know quite enough (through gay porn rags and flicks); I now wonder at just what "straight" guys I knew would be willing to go down on another guy or get his ass plowed; or letting another guy go down on his shaft------a lot of these " white collar power guys" spent BIG $$$$$ on high-class call girls-though they had a wife and kids; a lot of these guys also thought that LESBIAN sex was HOTTER than hell-but-just the thought of two GUYS doing each other was beyond disgusting (with these guys-----gay was OK as long as it had two GIRLS going at it!) Talk about a double-standard!

 

It's not like being gay doesn't come with its own issues. It's about visuals: Two men having sex isn't pretty to look at and porn doesn't help the visuals. Ah, but two gals having sex? The visuals are hot and sensual and porn makes sure of this. I've been present to watch women making love and, whew, I've taken notes. But when you're bi/gay, you understand what you're seeing and you understand that it's not about what you see since having a guy eating all of your dick is about as hot as anything can be; we don't get all fussy to see a woman being fucked in the ass but get all prudish to see a guy being fucked in the ass and... what's really the difference?

A guy eating pussy? Nothing to see here and he probably ain't doing it right. A woman doing it? Hotter than the sun. I have heard too many straight dudes wonder what it's like to be sucked by a guy or to be the one doing the sucking; of course, many bi and gay men knows exactly what that's like and I learned that while a lot of those guys aren't going to go out of their way to find out, if the opportunity presents itself, well, I won't tell if you won't. Is it a double standard to say that gay is okay if it's two women? Not if the women in question don't mind getting some dick, too; lesbians tend not to fair well and get shat upon because they won't sleep with men - and it's always men who complain the loudest. When you're on the inside, you know what's the truth and what's prejudicial bullshit and haters just hating because they don't know any better and that's because their parents didn't raise them right.

Guys have asked me what it's like and I've responded, "Do you really want to know?" If they really don't want to know, well, stop asking me questions you don't want answers to... but if you do want to know, I want to know why you do because despite popular belief, bi guys don't just sleep with anyone. It's not about being gay; it's about having sex in a way that's foreign to you but nothing to write home to mom about for me. Women do not own cocksucking... and neither do gay men and don't be stupid and ask me who does it better; if you really want to know, there's only one way for you to really know, isn't there?

Is it hot for me to watch a guy suck cock for the first time? Yeah, kinda but it's hotter to know what drove him to suck my dick and he's finding out something I learned decades ago: If nothing else, it's still just sex. It tells me something about him when I'm sliding my dick into him and before long, he's "begging" me to cum in him. If you were watching, is it a good, sexy visual? No, it isn't... but it's not about looks.

End of any day, it's about the sex. Either you can handle it or you can't and if you think you can't, why is that when you've never experienced it before. See, I'd rather pay attention to stuff like this than how stupidly ignorant a lot of people are; they think they know and I know that they really don't...

 

I stumbled on this site yesterday and this place give me some hope that I've not completely lost my mind. Have had one experience with another guy so far and it was great, now just need to find more. I'm in the same boat as others, will turn 60 soon and have just released all the pent up "though shall not" crap and have fun.

 

Welcome! You've not completely lost your mind but it has been freed from the "thou shalt not" crap.

 

Glad to see you on board with us! FORGET all this "thou shalt not" nonsense and enjoy sex with other guys without ANY feelings of guilt-------if your feelings/desires were "wrong" they would not feel so good! Be yourself friend!