Bi men and aging

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  1. GrayGuy57

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    When too many accept what is depicted so lavishly in fantasy, and then, when they face the reality of a given situation, they find themselves both disappointed and highly disallusioned.

    Yet another reason why having a solid footing in reality is of such great importance......
     
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    Fantasy is fine as long as one knows the difference between it and living in the real world. Fantasy can be quite healthy until spending too much time in them becomes unhealthy. Reality can be a bitch and a half and rife with unknowns but you deal with it with eyes and mind wide open - and the reality feels better.
     
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    Agreed, 100%.

    Simply put, "fantasy", like ambition, can be a good servant but a bad master.

    Put "fantasy" and "reality" into a healthy balance and I think you'll do pretty good in day-to-day life.

    Even I know that "fantasy" can really enhance a given man's sex life, but, here again, he has to know when to let "fantasy" take a back seat, if you will, to the reality of everyday living, with all its ups and downs.....
     
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    I once saw a porn video years ago of a man sticking his interior head into a woman’s vagina. I didn’t know if I should be turned on or repulsed. But I was definitely curious.

    I also think fisting looks hot. not sure my virgin asshole could ever handle it, but it’s hot to think about.
     
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    I often wonder if my daddy son fetish will change as I get older, as now I am into daddies. But I wonder if once I hit 60 or so, if I will still like daddies. Or switch to liking sons. Cuz right now, I don’t find any attraction to twinks. Anyone have any personal experience of what they have gone through?
     
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    You would be surprised as to how many senior gay/bi men STILL find "daddies" extremely hot (I'm one of them!)

    I never, like yourself, found twinks a turn-on (but, to each his own, I guess)

    I have always found inter-generation m/m ("daddy-son") porn (legal age young men and mature males) where the guys are taking turns topping and dominating one another, VERY hot and HIGHLY stimulating

    I am now 67, and I will admit there ARE younger guys I find QUITE hot, but, all in all, it's the older "daddy"/"bear" types that really do it for me................
     
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    What's wrong with twinks? The ones I've been with were good cocksuckers and fucking them was just as pleasing. Guys get into the younger/older thing but twinks don't get any love even though good old porn always shows older men doing a number on young-looking twinks. Daddy bears, well, my problem with them is all that body hair that seems to be an affectation of bears. Still, I learned to not "discriminate" and the only reason I'd kick a guy to the curb is if he didn't pass my three requirements and especially the third one: Don't be my idea of an asshole. Believe me, I've been around long enough to know an asshole when I see one. I could see a twink with a "bad" personality not getting any love from the younger/older crowd but not all of them have shitty personalities nor does all of them act overly effeminate, which is also something that a lot of guys avoid like the plague.

    I'm kinda "baffled" at how someone can be into the younger/older thing but twinks need not apply but I get it: If one is fucked up, all are fucked up... and that cannot be true and, yeah, when you're older, you should know this and not be of a mind to discriminate... just saying.
     
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    I get what you are saying. For me, it’s not that I’m trying to discriminate against them. I am just not sexually attracted to the average twink in porn. Sure, do I like seeing them get railed by a daddy? Of course. But it’s because I imagine myself being the twink and thus am more focused on the daddy in the porn. His cock. His facial expressions. His body. If you give me a hairy twink with a decent cock and a beard, then i might be interested. But the generic “twink” with a shaved body and submissive attitude, not for me. Just different tastes.
     
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    To hell with porn - what about real-life younger/ol - and m and more so when they don't even look like they're legal to have sex with. I agree that some twinks are submissive and, maybe it's just me, but I don't pay a whole lot of attention to his submissiveness because if he's truly submissive, he will do what I tell him to do. I know too many younger/older enthusiasts who want their twink to be a total sub bottom and to give off that "underaged" vibe and, yeah, there are twinks who'll top the shit out of you so it's about selection and, again, maybe it's me, but I wouldn't allow any notions of attraction to get in the way of my older ass giving a twink da bizness and like a good daddy should and if he's not willing to give me da bizness, well, he's not the right twink. I don't much care about cock size but the last twink I was with had a dick bigger than mine and I had fun sucking it until he flooded my mouth with cum and, again, like a good son is supposed to do when daddy blows him.

    Like I said - to hell with porn - establish your own "relationship" with a real twink who needs an older daddy.
     
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    KDaddy23:

    I guess it all boils down to is "different strokes for different folks" (pardon the pun!):D

    None of us ever has the EXACT same turn-ons, sex-wise; what IS important is to ENJOY to the fullest WHATEVER your preferences are.

    The MAIN problem with porn (as hot as much of it is) is that, as we have already discussed, it too often embellishes the FANTASY aspect (fine, up to a point) and does little to enhance the REALITY of a given sexual encounter between two or more men.

    Again, use your common sense and walk down your own path............
     
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    Yes, indeed - we're all different when it comes to our likes and dislikes but I also believe in, "Don't knock it until you've tried it!" and, yes, a lesson I had to learn that covers a lot of things that have nothing to do with sexuality. It's why I don't have preferences except I prefer to have sex; now, how we wind up doing it is open to negotiation and, usually, whatever you want to do is fine with me because I also learned to be "well-versed" in a lot of ways to have sex and because you never know who you're going to run into or, if it's someone you "regularly" have sex with, they've come up with something they wanted to do or try and, okay, I'm game if you are.

    My protege is so deeply stuck in his preferences that he can't step away from them in order to experience the sexual diversity available to him - and it's something that I've strongly suggested he do, and he acknowledges that he needs to and... he's still deeply stuck in his preferences. His choice but, yeah, another of those things I learned about having sex is that if you stay stuck in place, you won't ever be able to experience anything else - but I get it: We learn what we like and don't like and aren't of a mind to try/do anything new - if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it. Ah, but at the moment you complain about sex being the same old shit every time, that's what you get for letting your preferences boss you around and keeping you from discovering the other pleasures that sex has to offer and with a very diverse set of peoples.

    Like, last night, he shows me a set of seven pics of guys who were hitting on him on Grindr; five Black men, one white guy, one Hispanic guy and he asks me which of the seven would I sleep with if I could and I said, "The white guy..." because where I live, I'm surrounded by more Black cock than you can shake a stick at and, as I mentioned to him, it's like the white and other guys have gone into hiding. He says that he'd go with the white guy as well but the difference here is that it was him just talking the talk and I know he's not going to walk the walk because he has his preference for a particular type of man, and he just will not move away from that so he can gain more sexual experience as well as understanding sex from another guy's POV.

    And he really needs to if he wants to continue to grow as a bisexual man.

    Yeah, that's not ever been me; you have preferences and stick to them like they're super-glued to you and you wind up missing out on a lot of sex available with and from people who aren't anywhere near your preferences. That's not my idea of a sexy good time. As I've said time and time again, be of legal age to have sex, be healthy enough to be having sex, and don't be my idea of an asshole. You pass these things, we can get busy; you fail any one of these things, then it's no deal and there are way too many other men and women out there who want to have sex without the dumb shit getting involved.

    One's preferences has to be respected and all that, but I'll question them and more so when there are so many guys with preferences and... the only cock they've played with is their own. End of any day, I really "don't care" because I don't have any preferences keeping me glued in place and unable to literally "taste the rainbow." Then again, I already know how good it can taste...
     
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    KDaddy23:

    Another excellent and "spot on" posting; once again, you speak volumes of not only personal experiences, but also, simple common sense.

    And, woe to the gullible, who steadfastly believe that what they seen in porn flicks is iron-clad gospel truth!

    If you take what you see in porn as truth, then:

    ALL black men are hung like horses.

    ALL black men are strictly TOPS.

    ALL white guys beg to have a big black cock ripping their asses.

    Geeze, guys, can't you simply see the difference between REALITY and FANTASY?

    I would guess, sadly, many so-called "educated" men cannot..................




     
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    Is there truth to the things you said? Yes, there is. But if you take porn as being the truth, I submit to you that you have some issues that need to be corrected. I'm with a guy and he's put some porn on prior to us getting into sucking each other off and, on the screen, there's a white guy on the bed, face down and ass up and two seriously hung Black men giving him da bizness big time. He turns to me and asks, "Wouldn't you like to be those guys?" and I can tell by the rasp in his voice that the scene on the screen is turning him on.

    "Been there, done that a few times," I said. "I'd rather not do it again, though."
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    "If I asked you to fuck me, are you saying that you wouldn't?" he asks, and I can tell by the sound of his voice that he's not all that turned on at the moment.

    "Sure, I would," I said. "I just don't believe in doing shit that you can see in porn because it doesn't reflect the reality of things."

    It was, for me, bad enough that this very white man expressed his delight over me being a Black man and something I had to learn to not let bother me but here we are, watching unrealistic porn and wasting time we could spend sucking each other but his house, his rules. It took me six minutes to suck him off; I had to deal with him alternating between sucking me and stopping to tell me how much he was loving my BBC and to the extent that, twenty minutes later, he still hadn't gotten me to cum and I was not a happy camper because I had to cum and the only way I was going to do that was to make his "porn fantasy" come true and fuck him... which isn't what I came here to do.

    I pull him off of my dick and kinda roughly flip him over onto his ample belly and I'm not surprised that he automatically got on his knees with his equally ample butt as high in the air as he could manage. I reached over to grab the bottle of lube and, seconds later, I'm deep in him and he's flattened out as I work my way into flooding his rectum with cum and about time, too, because my balls were starting to hurt.

    He was in 7th heaven because, unbeknownst to me, I'd just made one of his fantasies a reality. And he wants to go again but that was for another day. I realized later that I let his porn fantasies get to me but, at the same time, I felt sorry for the guy for having the fantasy in the first place and all because porn was showing him that white men are only supposed to suck cock and bottom for hung Black men. I have often wondered if white guys who believe that porn crap have ever asked a Black man how he feels about being objectified like that in porn; what I know is that I don't like it even when I understand that everyone has different preferences and things that turn them on.

    I was glad that I'd left him feeling happy, sated, and well-fucked. I went home feeling some kind of way about it and not as satisfied as I had hoped to be but that was okay because I had two women at home who were gonna catch a "bad break" when I got home.
     
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    To be honest, I would have LOVED to seen you fucking that white guy's "ample" ass!:)

    All kidding aside, this guy indeed sounds like a lot of white guys with a die-hard BBC infatuation; in almost all the interracial m/m porn I've watched (or read) over the years, it is WHITE guys (often quite literally) worshipping some black guy's huge trouser snake, and begging to get their white butts bred.

    IMHO, I think that, also, seeing all of these horse-hung black men in porn has to "mess with", to some extant, the black guys who are "average" in cock size.

    Do they feel inferior?

    Short-changed?

    "Underpowered"?

    That is such bullshit.....you have a DICK........USE it to the greatest advantage you can, and screw all the stereotypical crap that a black man HAS to be hung like a mule to be able to satisfy another guy...............
     
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    You probably wouldn't believe the stress that lesser hung guys are under thanks to our big-dicked brothers. I mean, I'm not wimpy but I don't have 9+ inches - and you should see the looks of disappointment when I get undressed and I don't have a dick hanging down to my knees - or how many times a good deal got broken because I don't trip over my dick. Or some of the laughs I get - and keep to myself - when a white guy is losing his mind over my "BBC" and acting like he hit the BBC lottery or something. The less endowed guys - and guys I'll say are smaller than I am - catch bad breaks from those who are expecting the poor guy to be hung like an elephant - and women are the cruelest folks about a lack of expected size but there are guys who are size queens who are catching up to the level of trauma women can lay on undersized men.

    Two things about size I learned growing up: Both over- and undersized guys tended to turn to guys for sex because they'd be rejected by women who (a) didn't want their pussies ripped apart or (b) they supposedly wanted to feel the dick in them and wasn't with the undersized guys. What I also learned was that the guy with the biggest dick was the top and the guy with the smallest dick was the bottom although, today, you can see stupidly hung bottoms and tops doing them who aren't as hung as the bottom is and... go figure, right?

    But still, all Black men banging the holy crap out of white bottoms. Porn hasn't done us guys under 9" any favors and neither has that "bigger is better" shit that we also keep believing. I'm thinking you would have been bored silly watching me fuck that guy since I didn't come there to fuck in the first place but it was either fuck him so I could cum or just leave and with my balls aching. What was funny was that I got with him two days later and he said that he hoped that I wouldn't want to fuck him because he was too sore from when I fucked him a couple of days ago. Lucky for him, he was able to suck me off... but not without doing some choking and gagging that he didn't do the first time and especially when I unloaded into his mouth and... sheesh, some people...
     
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    We've long heard the totally useless adage: "bigger is better".

    Why?

    The other old expression: "BIG things come in SMALL packages"

    So, yeah, maybe the "top" is, in all honesty far, far from horse-hung, BUT does that mean he can't fuck a guy senseless?

    Again, it's not how MUCH you have, it's what you can DO with it.

    In porn, it is pretty obvious that black men with "average-sized" cocks ain't in demand; the guy has to have AT LEAST 11" or 12" before he "qualifies" as "horse-hung brother".

    Sadly, too many white guys cannot seem to grasp the reality that there are HUNG black men and hung WHITE men; then, too, black men and white men who are just "average".

    Again, what the hell is the big issue over dick size, regardless of race?

    I've seen photos of white guys who were mule-hung, and black men who were "average".

    Again, a DICK is a DICK, period.

    You DO have to feel sorry for those "average" black guys who see nothing but massive black cocks in porn, and then start believing that THEY are NOT "measuring up", so to speak.

    Sad.

    Again, be proud of what you DO have and use it to full advantage.....simple as that, folks...........
     
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    Ask the people who have bought into this bullshit. Cracks me up to see or hear guys who have never played with a dick that wasn't their own going on and on about wanting a big dick and the bigger, the better. Ask them why they prefer this and pay attention to how they might answer and if they say, "Because it's my preference!" you can fuck with them even more by asking them how they came to prefer a huge cock when they haven't even had an average one - and a lot of those guys get their wish... then wish they hadn't gotten their wish.

    Maybe it's me but you can't be on the "bigger is better" bandwagon but say that it's not the size of the boat that matters - it's the motion of the ocean. So many mixed messages when it comes to sex - and as someone who has had a lot of big dicks, they don't mean shit if the guy it's attached to doesn't know how to use it as an instrument of pleasure - and, sadly, a lot of them have no idea what that means... because they watch too much porn and believe this is how you're supposed to use your big dick on someone else.

    When you're bi and aging, you should know that size doesn't mean a damned thing and that average and even smaller cocks are easier to deal with.
     
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    Once again, well said, my friend.....I read you loud and clear.

    Why so many guys get so hung up on big dicks is beyond me; I most certainly do not have to tell a man of your vast experience that not a few guys that have long fantasized about either deep-throating or getting their ass rammed by a huge, thick cock, turn into whimpering chickens when it's finally "show time".

    Maybe it's because I'm such a die-hard "ass man", but I never could undxerstand just WHY so many gay/bi guys lust so much for big dicks........does a really big shaft up their ass stimulate their prostate more than an "average"-sized one?

    Does it stimulate their dick-hungry tonsils more during deep-throating?:p:D

    Sure, I've seen plenty of photos of mule-hung guys with two horny males slurping and sucking up a storm between his spread legs (well, yeah, there's PLENTY for everybody!):D

    If a guy is looking for sex with another male, isn't a DICK a DICK.....REGARDLESS of size?

    And isn't an ASSHOLE an ASSHOLE?

    Again, I'd love to have $1.00 for every guy who said he wanted to play with a HUGE cock......and then started having serious doubts when it was time to "play"....................:confused:
     
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    Maybe they think a bigger dick provides more prostate stimulation and it might if the angle is right. Still and admittedly, a big dick in your ass sure does fill you up and opens you up like driving a truck through a wooden door. Smaller cocks... tend to go in easier; it still might be uncomfortable for a moment but not as bad as having a thick nine-incher easing its way in there - or being brutally slammed in there. I'd rather have a nice five-incher in my ass than anything bigger than that - but, you take what you get and if you don't know the guy is packing and you find out he is, welp, this is about to get interesting, huh? Now it's on you to prove that you can take a dick without acting like a little bitch about it.

    I've seen those kinds of photos, too, and it galls me to see guys on their knees and making goo-goo eyes at the huge dick and salivating like Pavlov's dog and like the guy with the big dick is some kind of cock god and, man, that pisses me the fuck off just thinking about it because... a dick is a dick. Is it clean and healthy? Attached to a guy who's legal? Does it work the way it's supposed to? Sure, I can deep throat a nine-incher and it's quite the accomplishment, but I've had more fun sucking smaller guys and especially a guy who was only three inches fully erect... and I still feel bad about traumatizing him as I went to town sucking his dick and making him give up his cum three times - and I was going for a fourth when he tapped out.

    A man's asshole doesn't feel any different from a woman's. A good-looking guy's hole doesn't feel any different from a not-so-handsome guy's hole. There are some assholes that no dick of any size is going to get into and no matter how much good lube you use. Why? I have no idea... but that's more the exception than the rule. See, I think some guys say they prefer cocks from 8 to 10+ inches because they know they're going to have problems sucking such a dick and definitely gonna feel a lot of pain and discomfort taking it in the ass and that's a perfect excuse for them to not have sex with a big-dicked guy.

    My protege, who's white, tells me that he prefers guys in the 6 to 7" range but has sex with Blacks and Hispanics in the 8 to 10" range and stupidly thick at that. Most of those guys are bottoms and he act like they wouldn't want to top him and... sometimes, they do just that and now he's got a thick, 10" dick worming its way into his ass and, by his own admission, making him feel like a little bitch, talking about how uncomfortable it was going in - but will go on at length about how good it felt when the guy busted in him and/or has found the right angle to punish my protege's prostate without any mercy. And he has the nerve to act like I'm afraid of big dicks and like he really is but he's a good example of why having a cock size preference is straight-up bullshit and how Mr. Murphy loves to fuck with guys like this by presenting them with cocks that are nowhere near their vaunted and precious preferences.

    If you can't take on any size dick that comes your way, then maybe you need to stop having sex with men. Wake up - the coffee is brewing: Can you smell it because you need to.

    Then, there's this: Early women preferred men with bigger cocks because they lent themselves to a better chance of conception; the longer the dick, the closer to the cervix it could get when he ejaculated and the fatter the dick created a better seal as she was being inseminated.
     
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    Last I heard, you still can't get a man pregnant by fucking him in the ass and no matter how big the dick is.
     
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