Bi men and aging

Funny you mentioned about not getting a guy pregnant if you fucked him; long ago, I read where this guy said: "Fucking a guy in the ass is great; you bust a good nut and don't have to worry about knocking him up!"

Awhile back, I'd mentioned this interracial m/m site I browsed through once (enough for me) called "It's Gonna Hurt"; all white guys (some with really round, meaty butts that I'd love to get my hands on!) getting fucked by HUGE (and I do mean HUGE!) thick black cocks.

Once again, do you see any sites like this, where black guys are getting their butts ripped into by horsehung white guys?

Hell, no!

Here again, it's like we HAVE to be reminded of the insane old stereotype that ALL black men are hung like horses, and ALL black men are TOPS.

If a DICK is a DICK and an ASS is an ASS, then WHY still the fixation on HUGE cockS, especially ethnic cocks?

I, too, have seen photos where BBC-obsessed white guys are on their knees, so intensely worshipping a huge black cock waving in front of them, that they are nearly foaming at the mouth!

Oh, shit, give me a break, guys!

TOTALLY turns me off.........the simpering looks on some of these BBC-infatuated white guys' faces is both pathetic and totally embarrasing.

As you know, I'm 9" and fairly thick, BUT, you think that it gives me a feeling of superiority?

Hell, no!

Yeah, I'm hung, but I'm not going to waste my time thinking about how endowed I am (hell, I'm celibate, anyway!)

So I've got a big dick?

So what?

Like I've nothing better to do than gloat over the size of my cock!

I have what I have......'nuff said.

And, I surely don't have to tell you about how many white bi/gay men who think that all black, Hispanic, and Middle-Eastern men are all hung as all hell.

Think about it.....you never hear anything about guys wanting to play with Asian or Oriental cock (supposedly, all such men are nothing to write home about, dick size-wise)

Damn, how did all this immature ignorance grow such deep roots?

Hell, I think that there are HOT guys in EVERY race; why is this so damn hard for all the guys hunting for BIG cock within ONE race to understand?

Damned if I know (or really care).......

 

I don't know if there are sites that feature hung white guys gaping Black assholes but I've seen some porn - thanks to my protege - that, if nothing else, shows whites topping Blacks. To me, this isn't anything new since I've had plenty of white guys screw me and with cocks of varying sizes and thickness that I didn't give a fuck about because, um, duh, they were fucking me and filling me up with cum, well, sometimes but still. I've found myself scratching my head to hear a white guy tell me how big my dick is when, um, his is obviously bigger than mine and what the fuck is going on? I gave up trying to figure it out a long time ago but when it comes to sex, we have this "bigger is better" mindset that goes along with the bullshit that sex is only for the young and then porn comes along and just fucks up everyone's perceptions of sex with a gaggle of tired and played out genres that are so cliched it's pitiful.

Like everyone, I grew up hearing this stuff but my reality consisted of guys of any ethnicity and cock size was welcome to get with me as long as they could meet my three requirements. Everyone else around me is suddenly extremely picky and that was fucked up - but I got to have sex with a lot of guys and gals who were rejected for sex due to the pickiness of the group gestalt as a whole: Pretty, handsome, big tits and ass, and, of course, big dick and inhuman stamina and other senseless criteria that, if it did anything else, it eliminated so many possibilities to have sex - and I reaped the benefits big time because I wasn't buying into "bigger is better," was raised to be colorblind and to not be superficial. Now, by high school (for me) interracial interactions had reached a breaking point; despite being frowned upon, such interactions were still going on and strongly but with some new stupidity like being asked, "Is it true that Black guys don't eat pussy?" My truthful answer: "No, because I eat pussy and, no, don't ask me why so many guys don't." Or - wait for it - is it true that we all have big dicks? Some of us do, probably most of us don't and my thought was always that it shouldn't matter but to the masses, yeah - it mattered a lot.

As one gets older and presumably wiser, you see the fallacy and sheer cluelessness of the prevailing mindsets about sex and stuff I heard growing up is still alive and well in 2024 and you dismiss the dumb shit because, hopefully, you've experienced the reality and you've learned, as I did, that being too picky doesn't get you laid and the size of your dick shouldn't be more important than your ability to use it.

It just fucks with me to see so many male size queens and some who make female size queens look more like princesses - and I'm not even talking about the effeminate gay men who I encountered that were size queens; it kinda made sense that since those guys were all about being more feminine than the real thing, they'd adopt some of the "bad habits" real women had - like cock size. Doesn't explain why bi guys who aren't effeminate have turned into size queens but I'm thinking it can be related to the fact that there is a glut of submissive bottom men who, as I like to say, are letting their inner girl out to play and... their inner girl likes big dicks.

 

Well said, once again, and, hell, you make a lot of sense.

Effeminate gay men I could never tolerate ( must be totally honest, here); I cringed inside when I thought of all the straight guys who think that ALL gay men are effeminate, limp-wristed, and into Broadway musicals.

I'm like:

"Hey, just because you are GAY does NOT mean that you have to conform to degrading stereotypes, and sacrifice your masculinity!"

There were two such men where I worked, and, thankfully, I did not have to interact with either.

They practically SCREAMED "gay" in every word and action; TOTALLY turned me off.

They referred to other men as "she" and used the word "darling" with a frequency you would not believe.

THANK GOD I did not have to work with either.

Now, I'm 100% gay, and conform to NO "stereotype", in any form.

I am NOT "queer", nor am I a "fag",

I am a MASCULINE man who simply prefers men to women, sex-wise.

Thank you for allowing me to "vent"

As we had been discussing, it is not surprising at all, given how fucked up and gullible so many people are these days, that race and ethnic roots have to play such a prominent role in sex/sexuality.

Hell, we are all MEN, period.......what the hell does our skin color have to do with our sexual abilities?

I cannot tell you how many "adult" comedies i have seen where there is at least one part (or a running gag) dealing with a black man's supposed "endowment"......gets pretty damn old quick, that's for sure.

I have also, in all honesty, learned a tremendous deal from you, especially regarding bisexual men; your honesty and "up front" opinions and recollections indeed are a welcome respite from all the bullshit we hear these days.

It was not until I was about to retire (in 2004) that I began to suspect that a few married guys I knew were at least "bi curious"; I was just getting these "vibes", though none involved me personally.

All I DO know there were a LOT of homophobic bigots in the workplace; for instance, I recall one asshole clerk suggesting to his buddies one Friday before closing time: "Hey, let's go up to the Village and bash some fags!"

Supid?

Insensitive?

Ignorant?

All of the above.

I'd like to see any of these assholes go up to a big, burly, gay leather bear (or a gay bodybuilder) and call him a "fag" to his face.

I'm sure he'd soon missing a few teeth, at least.


I'm thinking to myself: "No wonder there is so much homophobia these days, and no wonder why bi-curious guys are so often terrified that a m/m encounter will make them "queer".

Personally, I think it's sad that many gays have no problem referring to themselves as "queer"; I've always been QUITE sensitive to terms like "queer" and, especially, "fag".

So you're a MAN who wants to have sex with other men......does it mean that you have to toss aside your masculinity and act little a simpering, flaming "fag"?

HELL NO!

Well, please forgive me for rattling on, my friend.

Just felt a strong need to "vent"...........

 

In high school, I saw a guy get the worst ass-kicking I have ever seen because he decided to pick on a gay friend of mind and totally forgot that while my friend was effeminate, he was still a guy and one who had taken up boxing as a way to defend himself. The beating the guy got was beyond brutal; someone said, "Yo, man, go get your boy!" and I wasn't getting caught up in an ass-kicking that the homophobic guy actually deserved - I didn't want to get hit. Teachers and, finally, the Youth Aid police officers patrolling the school showed up to stop the beating... and to call an ambulance for the guy who got beaten. My friend was arrested and suspended from school until the investigation was over and done with. The friends of the guy who got the mudhole stomped into his ass tried to tell officials that my friend attacked the guy without provocation - but there were too many of us who saw the guy start fucking with my friend and pushed him to the point where he had to defend himself.

Even I told the police, "If he had tried to beat me up, I would have done the same thing to him, only worse; his mistake was that he thought that just because my friend acts like a girl, he was weak and a victim and, well, he found out differently didn't he?"

My friend came back to school a month later... and no one messed with him again. The message sent was clear: Gay men are still men and if you forget that, you might get your ass beaten unmercifully.

Look, I'm nine years old, sucking dick and being fucked - and guys sucking my dick and I'm fucking them - and there were only two things we were worried about: Getting caught in the act and being singled out as being gay - and the flaming fag variety at that. In our cadre, we had one very effeminate gay guy who everyone liked and this guy would take on any or all guys, orally, anally, or both; he was the poster child for flaming fags but one of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet - and we protected him against the homophobes because he was a lover and definitely not a fighter. After a short while, the only thing we worried about was getting caught because we knew that we weren't gay - because we had the "perfect example" of being gay as one of the fellas even though he was girlier than most of the girls.

And learning how stupid people and society are about sex and sexuality. In truth, there's nothing wrong with a guy who's gay... unless he's got issues that makes him a bad person or, yeah, they have a beef with bi guys because a bi guy broke his heart and that's because our "goals" were not all that much in-line except for having sex and the gay guy wanted more than that and the bi guy wasn't willing to give it to him... because of the fear of being seen as gay and, gasp, in a loving relationship with a man. And something that I found to (a) not be as impossible as it sounded and (b) I'm glad that I had the experience because of what I learned about myself and my very effeminately gay boyfriend. The thing here is that I never forgot that he was still very much a man and one who chose to let his more feminine side step to the front and I loved him because he wasn't afraid to be "a flaming fag" as even he called himself - and sometimes because he was a natural redhead; he could laugh at this and I learned to as well because at the end of the day, I was still bi, he was still gay, and we were both men.

Anything else got lost in the details. Today, some bisexuals call themselves queer and I could never do that because "queer" was never a good word to lay on anyone since it was deeply connected to being homosexual and learning that, um, duh, if you're bisexual, you're not homosexual but you probably already know that all some people see are gay people and they don't care about the differences. Now, do you have to throw away your masculinity and act like a simpering flaming fag in order to have sex with men? No, you don't but it's a personal choice that's dependent upon some personal shit that's likely taken place in their life. My friend from my youth? His sisters feminized him because when he was born, they had wanted another sister - take it from there. I know and have been with gay men who behave no differently than I do as far as being masculine is concerned - just don't ask homey to sleep with a woman!

We just like to focus on shit that makes no difference in the real grand scheme of things. Is there still real homophobia? Probably but I think there are those who see the handwriting on the wall - that more men and women are embracing bisexuality - and they're afraid of the way things are changing in that regard...

 

Again, an EXCELLENT and, indeed, a thorough "food for thought" post.

When I was bashed back in 1986, it was by a co-worker/friend of mine, who I had NO designs on; I thought he was a hot, but I also knew he was straight, so i had no intentions of revealing my true self to him....why should I?

This asshole of a dork wanted to go to a strip club; I refused, but he wouldn't let up.

Finally he looked at me and said, "What are you, a FAG?"

I honestly replied, "I'm GAY, not a FAG. And I have no intentions of seducing you."

Well, I was beaten so bad that i was black and blue for weeks afterwards (I still carry deep mental scars to this day); after he stormed out, I was lucky enough to change my Amtral resefvations to a train heading east to New York that same afternoon.

Every part of my body made even the slightest move sheer agony.

As I would not be "out" for another decade yet, when I went home, I told Mom I took a nasty fall down a flight of stairs at an elevated train station in Chicago.

Thankfully, she believed me.

I was black and blue for weeks afterwards, and also suffered nightmares.

Back at work, this douchebag avoided me totally (like I WANTED to still be friends with him!)

I found out years later he'd married and had two sons (God alone knows how he brainwashed them with his toxic homophobia)

I thank God for my choice to live a celibate, almost hermit-like lifestyle.

I bother no one and no one bothers me, and I'm happy with the arrangement.

NO bi or gay guy (masculine, effeminate, or otherwise) should be subject to physical assaults, or, for that matter, verbal abuse, just as demeaning and degrading.

I have heard MORE than my share of homophobic beatings in high schools, as well as college campuses, over the years; sadly, some tragic suicides were the outcome.......what a sad, tragic, senseless waste of young, promising lives.

You, my friend, have indeed "seen and done it all", for certain.

And thank God you are SURVIVOR, with your dignity and self-esteem both intact...........

 

People who wanted to get violent with me because of my bisexuality learned that it was a mistake because I "played" for keeps and fought back with deadly intent. Word got around not to mess with that quiet motherfucker over there because he's fucking crazy and whatever you do, don't call him a faggot! As such, I didn't get bothered and if I was, I could talk my way out of having to letting my brutality out to play and that part of me that... liked hurting people. So if I told you to leave me alone and get the fuck out of my face, I'm only going to tell you once and if you persist, well, you earned what you're about to receive.

I would never let anyone steal my joy. Never. I respect why you did what you did but I wouldn't have. I would have licked my wounds, try to reconcile what happened, and kept right on being the person I know myself to be; otherwise, the hater that kicked my ass... won. Made me stop being... me. Oh, fuck no. Many have tried... and they all failed. Not only am I still bisexual but I'm still have sex like one and enjoying the fuck out of it. I understand the shit that can go wrong and, well, that's life and you can either face it head on or run and hide from it and I'm sorry but I don't run and I sure as fuck do not hide.

I'll put a motherfucker in the ground before I let them and their ignorance steal my joy.

 

I truly admire you, my friend, for your steadfastness in not letting anyone (or anything) take away the pleasures you so greatly enjoy (and deserve)

Though I have the guts and the backbone to fight many of life's battles (which I have done single-handidly for many years now), and have weathered a great many storms, I had long ago admitted to myself, honestly, that I am far too emotionally vunerable to try to "connect" with another guy, at any level, physical or emotional.

But, as I said, I don't dwell on it, nor do I allow it to damper my enthusiasm for my many hobbies and pastimes.

IMHO, I think life's experiences (for you as a bisexual man) have truly forged your strong character and fighting persona.

Hell, these days, you HAVE to have what it takes to be aSURVIVOR.

More power to ya, my friend...................

 

We do what we gotta do.

 

Agreed, 100%.

 

KDaddy23:

Just curious:

Are there any certain physical features about a guy you might soon be "playing" with that particularly gets your attention?

Overall looks?

Basket?

Butt?

Or, just the fact that he is another male looking for sex with another male? (and you're horny!)

 

A guy's looks mean nothing to me because it's not like we're going to be having each other's babies where a woman's look carries some importance since, if she's willing, she'll have my babies. I can recognize that homey has a nice print in the front of his pants or he's got a nice butt but I don't really care about those things; if I care about anything, it's personality and intelligence but if it's a guy looking to suck cock - and I'm horny and looking to suck cock, then as long as he can meet my three requirements, we're going to have a cocksucking good time. Guys kinda crack me up wanting to be physically attracted to a guy - and I don't doubt that they can be but what I know is that you don't have to be attracted to him - you just gotta want to have sex with him.

Or like I ask guys - including my own protege, "What are you gonna do? Marry him? Have his children? No? Then why do you have to be attracted to him?"

Their answers are... amusing. I have learned that if you're going to attracted to something, be attracted to the sex. When my protege asked how I managed to have so much sex with guys, I told him that I don't give a fuck about the things that other guys do give a fuck about. Be old enough to consent to sex; be clean and healthy enough to be having sex; do not be my idea of an asshole. Those are the three things I give a fuck about. I can acknowledge that a guy looks handsome or he's uglier than the original sin but looks don't mean shit and neither does the size of his dick. Is it healthy? Does it work the way it's supposed to? You gonna let me suck it? Cool - what else really matters?

If my instincts tell me not to do anything with a guy, I'm not doing anything with him and no matter how horny I am so just because I'm horny and so is he doesn't always guarantee that sex is going to hop off. And that's how you stay safe out there; trust your instincts and use common sense.

 

"Personality" and "intelligence".......indeed, these two fine qualities are all too often overlooked these days; a "high five" to you, my friend, for recognizing how important such qualities are!

Again, I also compliment you on listening to your "gut feelings"; more often than not, those "insticts" can and will save you a lot of grief in the long run.

Again, your attitude towards both life and sexual relations are to be indeed commended; more guys (regardless of orientation) should have your common sense and maturity.........

 

It's still not rocket science; it's not that hard to figure out. It gets you the dick you need; it keeps you safe; you get to enjoy an aspect of life a whole lot of men are afraid of. Life is gonna give you grief and you learn to work through shit so you can be about the business of living your life and that also means having sex and... you do what you gotta do to get it. In this, fortune favors the bold; it favors the adventurous and the fearless... but never those who cower like scared children afraid of the monster under the bed or a pile of clothing in the dark looks like a boogeyman or some other thing to be afraid of.

A life lived in fear is a life not worth living. If you truly only live once, why not live it to the fullest and that includes enjoying sex in the ways it can be enjoyed... and meant to be enjoyed?

 

I, personally, don't have to worry about a "monster under the bed" (all that isunder my bed are drawers full of books!

All kidding aside, what I REALLY wonder about is just WHAT might trigger an older married man, one who has long had fantasies about sex with men, to FINALLY "take the plunge", so to speak?

The wife no longer "putting out"?

Perpetual blue balls?

The fantasies about sex with other males growing into almost an obscession?

A sudden desire to throw caution to the winds, and "take a walk on the wild side"?

IMHO, it could well be a combination of all of the above.................

 

Could be all of the above; I've heard guys cite all of those things. For the first two, you'd think that the "natural" thing a guy would do would be to sneak out and get some from a woman who's still willing to give it up - except, a lot of guys are unwilling to cheat on wifey like that but... something inside them says, "You need to have sex with a guy!" and it sounds like the best idea of all time even when the guy getting this message is wondering why he's getting it and that's because he's never had any sexual interest in men.

But now he does. Is it cheating if you and your best friend blow each other? Technically, it is cheating... but some people don't consider it to be cheating since cheating is supposed to be an opposite sex malady for relationships.

Becoming obsessed about sex with men? Some men have been curious about it since puberty (or even before) but they suppressed it so they could do the things with women that men are supposed to do... but that curiosity never really goes anywhere and the fantasies get started and it's no harm, no foul since he's not really having sex with a guy... but wouldn't it be nice and fun if he could? Some men can put this obsession back in its cage and hope it never gets out again but other men? Now they're on the quest for cock and it becomes clear that they are not going to be happy with themselves until they get it - and whether they're married or still single.

Some men say, "Fuck it - I've had sex every way I can with women so why not check out sex with men?" Why not, indeed? Some men realize the clock isn't their friend and, yup, YOLO and tomorrow isn't promised to anyone so it can go from being a non-issue to a bucket list item to he's actively trying to get some dick because they know that now, they're never going to be right with themselves until they get it.

I've had sex with guys who fall into those four "categories." From being desperate to being curious and obsessively so to, "Why the hell not?" And not all of those men were older men; some were my age, a little older, and some a little younger. And that's all well and good but I still have yet to figure out what makes a guy decide that instead of getting some new pussy, sucking a dick is the thing he has to do and especially if he's never had a single thought about it and, indeed, didn't believe in such things... but now? One guy found me online and started telling me how, all of a sudden, he had a craving to suck cock and it was a coincidence that this hit him after his wife had a hysterectomy and had sworn off of sex and... could I tell him why he had the craving and... could he suck my cock?

All I could really tell him is that having that craving land on you out of nowhere appears to be... normal although it was triggered by his wife going celibate and taking him with her. We talked for another day or so before meeting up and going to the hotel room I had reserved. I'd given him all the warnings and caveats and reminded him that he didn't have to do this but he said he wanted to and I could see it in his face and eyes that he really needed to do this even though he was worried about not doing it right.

"Don't worry about that - you'll figure it out," I said.

He almost sucked the black off of my dick once he figured it out. I'd seen this before in guys, that moment when they've had me in their mouth and the realize that sucking cock ain't bad or evil and feels very normal and natural. I tell him that I'm gonna cum, you know, so he can stop since he expressed that normal concern about the acquired taste, but I also knew that he wasn't going to stop and he didn't and, yeah, whew, that was one of the more intense releases for me. He finishes getting every drop out of me, sits up... and starts crying and I'm thinking, "Oh, shit - he's about to melt down!" but, no, tears of joy and, yep, a bit miffed with himself that he never considered doing this before now. I had to settle him back down so I could blow him and after I relieved him of his cum, he said that that was the first time he'd ever been sucked off and it was quite the moment for him.

The thing that I noticed as we sat and talked about what happened was that he didn't say anything about how he felt about stepping out on his wife like this. I wasn't going to bring it up but, nah, he never said anything about it even after we'd seen each other like five or six more times.

Those four things you listed are common causes and you listed them in the order they tend to happen as well although the first two can be interchangeable. It's like the older a guy gets, the less he's concerned with the social angst and other bullshit. He still needs sex and he's not getting it; the lack of sex awakens fantasies because I really don't know a guy who has never wondered what it's like to suck a dick - and that's usually in concert with trying to make sense of gay men and, yeah, some guys get to a certain age and whether they're getting pussy or not, they say, "Fuck it - I gotta check it out!" or as I had one guy say, "There has to be more to sex than just having it with women!" And found out that, indeed, there is more to it.

But whether they actually do or not is something else. Most guys will let the social stigma and "what will my wife (or everyone he knows) say if she finds out" keep them sitting on the bench; some guys who might be suffering from ED are sitting on the bench because their dick doesn't work and doesn't think that, um, his mouth and ass are in great working condition and even I know that sucking on a soft cock can be fun because it still feels good. Some guys just make excuses for why they can't do what they know they want - and have - to do and, well, it's within their rights but that craving never really goes anywhere.

And even with any of those four things in play, an older guy will say, "Fuck it..." and go do what he's been wanting to do because life is too short not to.

 

Well, um, there are always "jelly babies" that can be "had" when the guy's cum starts oozing out of you and, in the younger days, man, dudes could be cruel talking about how they want to make you have a jelly baby or some dudes running around and telling "everybody" that he made you have a jelly baby and for some guys, just the thought of having a jelly baby was beyond terrible - but that's because they didn't know that you can't get anyone pregnant by fucking them in the ass - and only females can get pregnant if you shoot your stuff in their pussy. Even I had to get used to a guy stepping to me and asking me if I wanted to make jelly babies with him and not be offended by him asking like this - but I'd found out what a jelly baby was and, well, shoot, if that's the case, I've had a lot of jelly babies so what's one more?

This bit of lunacy notwithstanding, because girls were deathly afraid of "getting into trouble," they'd steadfastly refuse to have sex and, I felt, understandably so but that left guys with only one option: Having sex with a guy. And since guys who got fucked in the ass were being fucked like girls could be fucked, well, the guy being fucked might not be able to have a real baby but... jelly babies. Being razzed and teased unmercifully because a guy gave you a jelly baby and that means that you're really a faggot - but there was no backlash or shit thrown at the guy who put the jelly baby in me so, um, if you think I'm a faggot for getting a jelly baby, you do know that a guy had to fuck me in the ass for that to happen... so what does that say about him?

And, strangely, it didn't say anything about him; if you sucked dick and/or got fucked in the ass, you were a queer-assed, limp-wristed faggot of the highest order but no shame was laid upon the guy you had sex with. That would change like a year later and the guy putting the jelly baby in a guy, well, he's a faggot, too, which led to guys (a) not busting a nut in a cocksucker's mouth and (b) pulling out of his ass and shooting all over the place because some guys believed that if you didn't cum in a guy, then it wasn't gay or, yeah, if you didn't cum at all. The "jelly baby phase" only lasted for about a year only to be replaced by a greater fear of being seen as being gay - and even then, society as a whole totally missing the fact that gay men aren't the only men who likes to have sex with men - bisexual guys do. Then again, bisexual and homosexual were the same to a lot of people but, really - who'd want to bat from both sides of the plate? You'd have to be crazy to do that!

And there were a lot of crazy bisexuals and myself included. Today, you hear bottoms talking about being breeded which I know means being inseminated but, um, jelly babies can still come out of that hole once it's been loaded up with cum, right?

Right.

 

Man, you just GOTTA write a book: "LIFE ON THE BI SIDE"!

(bet you'd get a LOT of rave reviews!)

Isn't it odd, though, with "sex" in itself being such a simple, natural act, that it can also be more complex than the wiring diagrams for a NASA spacecraft??

I know from reading other guy's accounts (and also, in the past, hearing them firsthand), there are more than a few "straight" guys who, once they are married, think that pussy will be theirs for the taking, 24/7.

What a HUGE surprise a lot of these guys are in for, once the honeymoon is over, and the kids start coming.

"Not tonight, honey, I've got a headache" becomes more the rule than the exception.

I've read that a lot of bi-curious married guys usually start off with mutual wanking (with a buddy or a stranger), and then, either gradually or quickly (depending on the situation) can, indeed, rapidly escalate into hot-and-heavy bj trade-offs and fucking.

I often wonder about the feeling "straight" guys have when they have their first m/m encounter, and find that they are totally blown away be experiencing feeling and sensations they had not thought possible.

Yep, it CAN get QUITE interesting......and HOT, for any man involved!

 

Yeah, I'll get right on that book. Yup.

No, I don't find it odd that M2M sex can be as complicated as quantum theory because we make it that complicated. I was explaining it to a guy who stopped me at one point and asked, "It can't be that simple, can it?" and my reply of, "It really is that simple but we don't believe that it is so it winds up being more complicated than it has to be." First you have the religious prohibition and the haters love throwing all that Old Testament shit out there when, clearly, it must not mean a whole lot given how many homosexuals are - and always have been - in the world and, clearly, they all can't be wrong. Then you have the social angst which is really a lot of very clueless people chiming in on what they think all of this sexuality shit means and, more often than not, getting it dead wrong. Then you tack on our habit of always focusing on the negatives and assuming that if one is, say, suicidal, then all are suicidal - without thinking that what makes someone want to take their life is all the bullshit being said against homo- and bisexuality and now you have a bunch of people believing that the whole world hates them and the shit-ball of negativity just keeps rolling from there.

Yep, guys believe that once they get married, it's free pussy for life... until they find out what happens when the honeymoon is really over. Once a woman decides that she's done enough to keep you, the pussy goes off-limits and it's gonna suck to be you and don't even think about getting laid elsewhere. Here's a clue: When she asks, "Is that all you think about?" it's the beginning of the end.

The "safest" entry point is masturbation, either jerking yourself with another guy present or doing it mutually; that can, um "graduate" to cocksucking and I even found myself in a mutual masturbation session and... why am I doing this when I want to suck his dick? Or I'm jerking and snatching on his dick and he's doing the same to me and the next thing I know, he's bobbing his head up and down with my dick in his mouth and, yeah, that is way better than jerking each other off and less of a mess if the cum is swallowed. And while a lot of guys are content to stop right there, some want to fuck and be fucked which is probably the "true graduation day" for newbie bisexual men.

Having given a lot of straight guys their first experience, the majority of them were, indeed, blown away because they didn't know it could be like that. That everything they heard about faggot and queers... isn't quite right because being sucked off by a guy... is the shit and sucking him, well, who the fuck knew that sucking dick could feel so good? Being fucked that first time? Definitely not what they imagined - or fantasized - it would be and definitely not quite the way they saw it being done in porn but, okay, it wasn't too bad but might get filed under "It's Not Something I'd Do All of the Time" but, sure, when the mood strikes them, bend them over, lube them up and, yeah, give them a jelly baby.

Some guys find that they have a hard time parsing these new thought, feelings and sensations because... men are not supposed to make each other feel this way. It's wrong but it also felt 100% normal and natural - but how can that be when the bible says it's a sin? As such, some straight guys don't "get it" until maybe their second or third experience - and even if they try to keep at it; they will say that they'll never do this again but, yeah, famous last words because it took time for them to realize that... that shit was good. Being sucked off was better than a girl/woman did it and sucking dick, wow, what a rush that really was and... his cum didn't taste all that bad.

Where's the harm in going for it again? I've heard straight guys say that a guy can't make them cum via a blowjob - and I'm talking about the ones who really believe this and not the jamokes who say it as a hint that they want to get sucked off. I've convinced them to let me blow them and... they've been blown away to have nutted in my mouth... in less than a minute.

 

Excellent response, as always.

I truly feel for gay/bi guys who live in the "Bible Belt", especially those who have been raised in ultra-uptight, ultra-religious households; I've heard (and read) enough stories about guys growing up bi or gay in the "belt".........ain't fun at all, for sure, and can often be downright dangerous.

A number of years back, I recall being both angry and sickened by hearing of some really fucked-up anti-gay "religious" group (down in Texas?) called "Bash Fags For Jesus".

Tell me that THIS wasn't the ULTIMATE blasphemy?

Amazing how the Bible, instead of being used as a book of love, lightness, and brotherhood, is so often, TOO often, used as a weapon of hatred.

I wonder how many "holy rollers" even know their is heterosexual incest within its pages?

Oh, wait, it's HETEROSEXUAL....NOT two men.....OK, let's move on.

Recall the so thoroughly demented, totally-fucked up Fred Phelps? (Westboro Baptist Church); indeed, Satan personified.......this little fucker was DANGEROUS.

I've read that, as anti-gay as the late Billy Graham was, his (hunky!) son Franklin, puts him to shame with his own brand of homophobia.

Then, too, the late Jerry Falwell.

That's right, guys, let's spread HATRED and INTOLERANCE in the Name of the Lord............sickening as hell.

Anyway, as we've discussed previously, legions of straight married guys have ruefully discovered that "free pussy on demand" is NOT in the wedding vows.........how soon the "honeymoon" is over, as the years go by, and the kids start coming.........reality sucks, don't it. guys?

KDaddy23, you are so right that the religious faction, coupled with generations of ignorance, intolerance, and brain-washing bullshit, have really fucked up the minds of countless men, men who want (and NEED) to have sex with other men, but are too damn afraid to give in to their urges, due to a really fucked-up society.......................

 

Somewhere in the Bible, it says:

Judge not, lest ye be judged."

And:

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Too bad that the bigoted, homophobic, religious fanatics who so vehemently tout the Bible seem to forget these words...................