Bible Questions? III

If that is what you believe then you are not a liar.

I'll try one more time; is Jesus the Son of God?

I'm glad you agree that it does describe you because of your pointless debates about words every time you are confronted with the truth.

 

OWB

Well certainly not the act itself, but I am referring to more than that. I could only ever expect a christian to misunderstand me on such a point! lol

"Sin"? Really? Why not be a man and say how?! Those who believe in sin have an 'interest' in sickness. I am no punisher, but I can't hide that I find it disgusting.

 

You will try and what. Jesus is brother to all children of god.

I did not agree it describes me, and I keep asking you what truth would that be?

 

Do you even know what sin is?

 

Is Jesus the Son of God? Yes or no? It's simple question, why not answer it?

Well, I'm not the one who keeps turning these discussions into debates about words, that is you.

You keep asking and I unlike you, I keep answering, the truth is that what you believe is not consistent and is out of harmony with the Bible and so when you are shown that fact, you dissolve the conversation in to a debate about words.

 

It's an archaic idea used to justify punishment.

I'll let your own people show you that it's disgraceful to believe in the devil. Call it divine mercy. lol

Do you know what eternity is?

 

I have answered it, more succinctly I might add, than the way you answer questions. My answer is Jesus is brother to all the children of god.

My debate is not over words but concepts. The definitions are remedial instruction because you don't know the meanings of words. You don't know for instance that worry is antithetical to love. Like I say you worry because you have found me guilty.

You have not shown me one fact, not one, only your interpretations.

 

The word sin is actually from the old English meaning sign. To sin is to "miss the sign" or evidence of god or goodness. Fundamentally it is an error in perception.
Errors in perception do not require punishment but education.

In this world it is the accusation that condemns. There is no sin that is not forgiven save for blaspheme against the holy spirit, that is to deny your own source. So sin is not an excuse for punishment but it is a source of anxiety.

 

thedope:

It? Errors should be called errors.

Yes. How else to eradicate them? lol

You mean suicide? I don't understand how it is a sin. I don't see how it is possible to deny ones source.

It's been both. Really it is nothing at all. Words do fall to disuse.

 

"Sin" is a fundamental error in perception. Sin shows you a world that cannot be trusted, a world of variable intent, variable proportions of good and evil.
Duality. This is not what the "real world" looks like. The real world, if you will is wholly emergent and symbiotic, all things working together. There is no opposing force.

I'll put it another way. If you do not look for solutions, none will avail you.

It has been both. The word sin may have fallen into disuse in some circles. I do not use the term except in discussing the concept. The word is certainly interpreted in many ways. The anxiety that sin causes however, is endemic. "Come to me all who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest."

 

thedope:

In whose exactly? I still fail to see the fundamental nature of it.

So "grace" is self-bestowed. How can christians reconcile such a fact to their faith?

Concerning "the real world" my words can only be at odds. lol

Let me at least say that I agree entirely with your feeling on the matter.

 

You seem relatively unaffected but in general we see only the past and anticipate a future that never comes, that is the fundamental nature of it.

We did not create ourselves. We are not free to decide what our inheritance is, but we are free to accept or deny it.

Why not complimentary?

 

Oh, we did, lol, just not alone, but together. It's funny how the freedom of acceptance is synonymous with decision.

That's what I always ask! I'm odd like that.

I love how even our 'worst' looks best in a certain light.

 

I agree that we are co-creators, however I did not give birth to my parents.

If the eye is sound, the whole body is full of light.

 

There's always the straight line, being possesses itself at last of course, ---in the "real world" it's always safe to say we beget all we can imagine.

In principle I have to agree. What to do if asked for the equation though?

 

Doesn't this indicate that it is outside the Scriptures that we can experience and learn about God--through Creation even?

An this really just says what Scripture is good for, not that everything else is not included. Also, Paul wrote this before other Scriptures were even written (e.g. Revelation). It also does not say that Scripture is exclusive. The same word (you have translated as beneficial) is also attributed to purity as equipping men for "every good work" (cf. 2 Tim 2:21). Elsewhere, it is written that steadfastness makes men "perfect" and "complete" (James 1:4) which is a stronger word that what is translated here as "fully competent".

 

Or all things arise with conception.

The linguistic equation is relative to the sonship. The body is that of common humanity.
The full statement is: the eye is the lamp of the body, if the eye be sound then the whole body will be full of light, but if the light in you be darkness, then how great the darkness.

 

Before you get into discussions, it would be good if you had some clue what you were talking about or at least knew the definitions of the terms used.

 

It is interesting that you won't answer the question, why is that?

It really is quite a simple question.

Is Jesus the Son of God? Yes or No.

 

No, your debate is over words, mainly because otherwise your concepts don't hold water.

I know the meanings of words, it's just that I don't know your meanings for words, mainly because you make them up as you go along.

I don't know it simply because it not true, much like most of what you say.

So you keep saying but how how can I find you guilty if I have not judged you?

So you say.