Bible Questions?

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  1. Skizm

    Skizm Member

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    Jussumguy, much like cars run off of gasoline, I run off of arguments. I'm an atheist so where would a great place to argue be? The religious topics!
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I see you didn't bother to read all I posted.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    These:
    The fact that it's illegal would pretty much make it a sin. As for jumping off bridges, if there is the possibility of killing your self, that would seem to be a disregard for the life God gave you and that could be a sin but if it's a lower bridge and your jumping into water you know is deep enough, I don't think there would be any problem.
     
  4. Skizm

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    Touche good sir, I did not. Well I did, just misintrepreted it.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Seeing as this tread is about Bible questions, I don't think whether it's a sin to an Islamic fundamentalist or not is a problem.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Like I said liking thrills is not a problem, the problem is what you get those thrills from.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Not a problem, it happens to us all. :D
     
  8. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    oh fool...read the bible....:)

    Mark 3

    1Another time he went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. 2Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. 3Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."
     
  9. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    will we know where loved ones in heaven?
     
  10. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    can i get someones thoughts on Mark 10:32-45

    i dont get it..

    also

    Mark 9:33-37
     
  11. JusSumguy

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    There is two things going on here. Jesus is preparing his disciples for a shock. The shock of finding out that Jesus is about to die (and be resurrected).

    Also, he is giving last minute advise to them where it comes to pride and selfishness.

    If you're important on earth, you will be unimportant in Heaven.

    He knows that after he dies (and is resurrected) that his deciples have the potential to become rock stars.

    He doesn't want it to go to their heads.

    These verses are for pointing out that your only desires should be for the uplifting, and promotion of God. All other desires will be rewarded in opposite in Heaven.

    Desire to be great, and you will be small in Heaven. Desire for others to be great, and you will be great in Heaven.

    Hope that helps.


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  12. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    huh? after talking to one of my friends he felt that we should come to Jesus like chirldren :
    Taking a child, He set him before them, and taking him in His arms, He said to them,

    37"(E)Whoever receives one child like this in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me does not receive Me, but Him who sent Me."

    bcuz we all know how children believe anything so we should be like children.

    i liked your message but i dont seem to understand where your getting that from?
     
  13. JusSumguy

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    Go back and read the whole chapter/s in context. See who he's talking to. When it is. What has happened and what's about to happen.

    Approaching God like children seems appropriate as a generalization of what he was saying to them.

    I was giving a detailed reasoning as to the specific characters and events in those verses.

    Yet, you could put it in a nutshell and think of it like your friend told you. But not like you conjecture.

    Being like children doesn't mean gullible. It means to be forgiving and full of love with an understanding that we (our soul) can't survive on our own without God's help.

    The Lord tells us to be aware, and on guard in our innocence.

    Hope this helps.


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  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    I'm not sure what you're asking about. The two Scriptures you have cited seem pretty straight forward but if you are a little more specific, I'll try to answer.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes we should become like children but not by believing just anything. In the context, when Jesus asked us to be like children, He was asking us to be humble like children.

    Men want to be great in the eyes of others and oft times that gets in the way of the truth. If you admit you don't know something, then how can you be great?

    But the truth is not about being great, it's about being humble and loving, like children.
     
  16. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    This is an interesting exegesis on Mark 9:33-37 http://atheism.about.com/od/biblegospelofmark/a/mark09e.htm

    The First and the Last: Power vs. Powerlessness in Christianity

    As he has done many times before, Jesus comes to Capernaum — although never identified as having been born there, he is recorded as having spent enough time in this town that it came to be regarded as “Jesus’ town” by many. This was a center of his ministry where he performed many healings and taught many different things — something we need to keep in mind when considering the current scene and message.

    Apparently the disciples were arguing amongst themselves while traveling through Galilee, but they wouldn’t reveal the topic to Jesus when he asked. Unfortunately for them, he knew without having to be told — perhaps he was even waiting for something like this to happen.

    Some theologians have argued that one of the of the reasons why Jesus did not make things plainer to his disciples in the past can be found here in their prideful concern over who would be “first” and “last.” Basically, they couldn’t be trusted to put the needs of others and the will of God before their own egos and their own desire for power.

    The child here is used not so much as a symbol of innocence (which many believe) as he is a symbol of powerlessness. Jesus is telling his disciples to “receive” powerlessness — be receptive to being in a state without power over others in order to be worthy of also receiving the salvation Jesus offers. Receiving the child is also meant literally, of course: in order to be a good follower of Jesus, one must take in the powerless and vulnerable to help them.

    This idea of service on behalf of others has been a powerful image throughout the history of Christianity — although not one that has always been honored in practice to the same degree that it has been praised with words. Some Christians have made the effort to humble themselves and be “last of all,” but many more have gone to great lengths in order to be “first” here on earth.

    Are Christians who start television ministries beamed to homes around the world and which bring in millions each year in donations really being receptive to powerlessness? How many Christians have you met who actually and sincerely believe in the need to receive the Christian message as a powerless individual?

    This raises an interesting question: if you do become a “servant of all” and thus “last of all” because you know that this is the path to become “first” in God’s kingdom, doesn’t that still make you power-hungry? Can a person who connives to get into power through a back door really be said to deserve the position of “first”?
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    As always you've come up with a very interesting take on things. ;)
     
  18. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    very interesting.

    thanks
     
  19. JusSumguy

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    Yep.... Very poetic.

    Zakly wut I was sayin. A bit (much) more eloquently though. :)

    We are powerless without God. And we can't receive his protection until we realize this and turn our lives over to him.

    If we were to be confronted by satan and attacked. As a lone person, we're powerless. He can rip us apart.

    But if we say, "In the name of Jesus, be gone satan." Poof, it's done.

    Without the Lord, were sitting ducks. With the Lord, he can't touch us. But to get that protection we have to accept our powerlessness.


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  20. jmt

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