Biblical Inconsitencies

pagans sure have a lot of time on their hands...i suggest you try reading it again and figure out how to follow subject and object...also why would you bother posting in a Christian board when you're not christian? are you insane? are you that hateful and bigoted to those not like your elightened self as you see yourself? how about mocking muslims by going to their boards and see how far that gets you. see how many death threats etc..or would that be acceptable since it's not christianity or judaism? stop your hatred and go in peace and believe as you will..stop your mocking hatred and Christophobia. it's sickening and shows a level of mental illness

 

I think a better example would have been Matthew 7:21 vs Mark 9:38-41, John said to him, "Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us." Jesus replied, "Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me. For whoever is not against us is for us. Anyone who gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, amen, I say to you, will not surely lose his reward."

It may take a little thinking on your part to discern the subtle differences, but in Matthew it plainly says, "... who does the will of my Father who is in Heaven". In Mark the person is still alive, so judgement has yet to come. What is exposed is the heart of the second person, that of sympathy, empathy and understanding. Remember that at the time it was completely a Jewish phenomenon, therefore it would have been Orthodox Judaism vs a new Judaic cult. ("Anyone who gives you a cup of water because you belong to Christ...")

I happen to have known someone who professed faith yet did black magic. (I doubt very much that that is the will of the Father.) It therefore becomes one of intentions, of one's "real" soul, whether there is evil anywhere in it. Mere lip service will not save anyone. The Secret Book of James says, "I tell you the truth: no one will be saved among those who fear death."

 

AMEN!!!!!!!

yet, "oh, the joy that comes in the mourning(morning)".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

All things that happen are the will of the Father. Those who do not know this (yet) do not see or understand the kingdom of heaven. I know it is all right to eat food sacrificed to idols (to play with 'black magic'), but one who is weak in faith may not.

Those who fear death do not know of the Father's perfect will for them. Of course they are not 'saved', they do not know God and are caught up in silly mortal fears. Until they know God, they will worry about silly things that they do not need to worry about (such as death, hell, or black magic). Those who know the Father do not feel the sting of death or hell. Although a little spanking now and then is enjoyable.

It's like a child being afraid of the dog in Toy Story 2.

 

All of which exposes the basic absurdity of christianity ~ that everything that happens is "the will of the father", yet it is claimed that humans have freedom of will. So the people who do that will shall be damned for doing it (because even evil is of god's will).
Damned if you do
And those who apply supposed free will shall be condemned unless it is the same as that of god! (which includes evil).
Damned if you don't.
Absurd.

 

simply, you lack understanding:-((((((

and i can understand for you, as multitudes, have also been
deluded by the pagan harlot that calls herself "christianity".

you do have "freedom of choice(will)"! given you of Our Father.

and "The Way to The Truth of The Life" begins and ends
in simplicity!

hopefully there will come a time when you will "see" how
"poor and needy" you are.

and at that time, just as The Messiah, the desire(will) of your heart
will be:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, you will have "seen" and experienced "The Messiah and
The Power that resurrected Him".

and your version of "life" will pale in comparison to "The Life",
and you will choose rightly.

yes, freedom of choice(will) is, for Our Father HE does not
create robots.

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope,
many would choose wisely and choose
"The Life".

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

I wasn't actually asking anyone to explain the passages I cited, I was trying to see if anyone could resolve the contradictions of the particular passages I cited. I think people understood this but decided to act like they didn't in order to appear as if they answered the question when they hadn't.

If you don't have the answer, change the question?

 

Ok, I appriciate that you took the time to respond to my post but I think you misunderstood what/why I was asking.

 

"And they sought to lay hold of The Messiah, but feared the people:
for they knew that He had spoken the parable against them: and
then they left The Messiah, and went their way. And then they sent
unto Him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch The
Messiah in his words."

nothing has changed, today also there are many who seek to "catch"
a disciple, a Brother of The Messiah in their words.

could be that is your portion also, however i must proceed as if you
were sincere in your questioning.

first let it be understood that the chapter and verse mentality was
first developed by "theologians" at approx the same time that
"catholicism" and her pagan "christian" daughters renamed one head
of their three-headed "god" "jesus". actually the chapter and verse
indexing was initiated prior to the name change.

oh, and btw, "christianity" is the legacy of the pharisee's and "The
Way of Truth is evil spoken of" because of her.

ever since "chapter and verse" was established the "theologians"
have used the "pick a verse" theme to formulate many of their
theo'ry'logical doctrinal heresies.

and seems you also use the same approach.

however, if you are sincere, well then publishing a few verses
prior to Romans 10:13, along with a few verses after Romans
10:13 should "open the "eye" of your understanding".

hoping that will be the case....... simplicity yet reigns although
multitudes who live in the darkness of a "yellow submarine" prefer
complexity because confusion is their cover, even as they fear
for life.

"the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, "Do not say in
your heart, "Who will ascend into heaven?"' (that is, to bring
The Messiah down from above) or, ""Who will descend into
the abyss?"' (that is, to bring The Messiah up from the dead).
But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth
and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
that if you confess with your mouth The Messiah and believe
in your heart that GOD has raised Him from the dead, you will
be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness,
and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the
scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to
shame." For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek,
for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."

How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed?
And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard?
And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they
preach unless they are sent? As it is written:

"How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the
gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!"

"glad tidings of good things" indeed, may you receive them.......

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as wars(spiritual and carnal) rage....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

So you're saying that "2+2=4" is too complicated so I should say instead "2=Y to the 3rd x the variable of X to the 5th minus Y reduced from the 7th which represents the variable of XY to the 9th....."

Because...
".. simplicity yet reigns although
multitudes who live in the darkness of a "yellow submarine" prefer
complexity because confusion is their cover, even as they fear
for life."
(?)

 

sad for you:-((((((

you are the "proof of the pudding".......

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

for simplicity yet reigns, even though few receive the gift.......

peace, even as wars(spiritual and carnal) rage....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

God you're a judgemental bastard.


I won't say "how sad", I'll just say How typical!

 

sad for you:-((((((

for once again your words testify against you.

hoping one day you would begin to appreciate discernment,
another gift that needs be received.

yet before one receives, needs be they see their need!

may the "eye of your understanding be opened".
in spite of you, just as it was with me.

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as wars rage....... francisco

 

you say "your posted words throughout this forum testifiey against any right" so you're saying questions are inherently wrong? Reveiwing the historical data is herasy? Asking for clarification of something I don't understand, rather than dismissing it out of hand, is the work of the devil?

"yet before one receives, needs be they see their need!" Yes, and before one can know they have to awknowledge their ignorance. But if someone's decided their own ego is all the God they'll ever need I'll just leave them to whatever heaven and hell they've made for themseves because that's not where I want to go.

 

you say "your posted words throughout this forum testifiey against any right" so you're saying questions are inherently wrong? Reveiwing the historical data is herasy? Asking for clarification of something I don't understand, rather than dismissing it out of hand, is the work of the devil?

"yet before one receives, needs be they see their need!" Yes, and before one can know they have to awknowledge their ignorance. But if someone's decided their own ego is all the God they'll ever need I'll just leave them to whatever heaven and hell they've made for themseves because that's not where I want to go.

 

Why?, indeed!. I feel that when Jesus said, "Upon this rock I will build my church," he was talking about the cornerstone (which the builders of the house of God & the nation of Israel, Israel, rejected), Jesus himself.

He was saying, 'you are Peter, you're hard headed, as smart as a Rock. Matthew 16:16 has Peter saying whom Jesus is. Jesus says, 'God spoke to you'. So maybe you're not so stupid - even a hard headed person like you (who didn't have a hard heart and could thus still listen) can still hear the word of God. That is what I shall build upon - God is love and since only the heart can understand love, so also only those who can listen from the heart will be able to understand my words.'

The rock which Jesus spoke of was Jesus himself, and his message was that God is Love, that every man is God if he can find Love in his heart, to do onto others as he would like others to do unto him.

 

strange, how you "see" yourself?

as one who ?'s as a "seeker" when it is so
clear that you are but one who seeks to
establish his own "ego".

indeed, you have left yourself to the
"heaven and hell" of your "ego".

as to "d"evil?

The Messiah proffered these words of Truth:

"Father forgive them, for they know not what they do".

so be it:

for while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that ignorance, that which is of the "I",
the "ego", will be overcome by The Truth, and
that many will "deny themselves("I")", as they
seek to receive "the mind of The Messiah".

Father Help!!! and HE does.......

peace, even as wars(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

You just keep proving my point. I feel sorry for you dude, somebody who thinks they know everything never really sees anything. you're missing alot.