Black Lives Matter Accused Of Tying Up And Torturing Disabled Man

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  1. thefutureawaits

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    Someone loves to use the word dubious. Must of just picked that word up. Always attacking the people and not the message. The pattern is clear. Maybe some self examination is needed.
     
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  2. thefutureawaits

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    Oops double post
     
  3. Asmodean

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    Well there's someone 'attacking' a message, and certainly not in any way the person! :D Anything on topic to add?
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

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    OK then, name me ONE thing Black Lives did to improve racial relations.
     
  5. Asmodean

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    So you agree it was not all lies and victim baiting?
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

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    Nice dodge there.

    Of course I don't. Here's some facts that Black Lives ignores.

    So yes, I do believe when BLM spreads misinformation that black people are being deliberately hunted down by police every single day. And the only reason they are struggling in life is the fault of systemic racism, it is all lies and victim bating.
     
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    One accomplishment of bringing police brutality to the attention of the nation is police are now required to wear body cams in many cities.
     
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  10. MorphGirl

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    it was not BLM who brought that in, it was Senator Tim Scott who introduced the bill. Safer Officers and Safer Citizens Act in 2015

    ​Funny thing is the ones who do wear the cameras, studies show they are more likely to shoot. Yes a 3.6% increase in fetal shootings by police who wear body cameras. Want to know why? they have evidence on their person that will show it was self defence.
     
  11. Meliai

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    I didn't say they introduced a bill, I said they brought national attention to the issue which led to the introduction of the bill

    which is what activists do, they bring attention to issues and put pressure on the lawmakers who can actually institute change.
     
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    Again not true. He brought the bill in because of his own outrage over something that happened in his home town. a 50 year old man who was unarmed was shot by police.
     
  13. Meliai

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    And again, BLM still brought attention to the issue.

    We will never know if the bill would have passed if it wasnt such a topical conversation due to police shootings that received so much attention thanks in large part to BLM protests across the country

    But from what I have observed, lawmakers generally dont give a shit unless there is a huge amount of pressure placed upon them by their constituents
     
  14. MorphGirl

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    you want to attribute BLM as the ones who are saving black lives due to this camera thing, so be it. Let BLM take credit.

    here is a little fact for you with regards to the cameras on their bodies. Maybe this law needs to be rethought? Doesn't seem to be serving the black community

    "No increase in fatalities was noticed in police interactions with Whites/Asians but police were found to be 3.68% more likely to kill Blacks/Hispanics while wearing body cameras."

    Oh and to further add. Senator Tim Scott is a republican and is black.
     
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    An excellent example of where applying gross numbers of events is basically meaningless when attempting to modify policy. The basic assumption it seems these days is that ANY time a cop shoots a black American, the cop MUST be a racist klansman that wants to bring back slavery. What else could it be? So a straight line of causality is drawn since it is an easy sell to simple minds. Looking only at the numbers as opposed to examining each case makes it too easy to drive whatever narrative is wanted.

    Even when the actual numbers by race are presented we are subjected to the idea that "cops are hunting down black guys in the streets and targeting them for murder" as if this was Venezuela. With a body cam you can see two sides to a cop's reaction. On one hand the cop could potentially take advantage of the situation the moment a subject presents an obvious opportunity that "looks good" on tape. On the other is that it removes any hesitation the cop may have had without a camera.
     
  16. Meliai

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    He is a senator in my state so I know who he is.

    It should also be noted that Charleston avoided all the protests surrounding the shooting of the unarmed man that other cities have seen because the offending officer was immediately charged with murder as soon as footage emerged showing what happened

    Anyways, yes I do think that bringing national attention to the issue of police brutality did make it easier to pass through body cam legislation, you dont so thats fine but i'm not going to argue the point.

    That is interesting about the increase in black/hispanic shootings, but I still think all police should wear body cams. Body cams protect not only the community but also the officer and keep innocent officers from being charged as well as incriminating guilty officers.
     
  17. Reverand JC

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    OK Since now I'm not responding from a cell phone and it is easier to link to my sources.

    The result that I used to cite about Paul Joseph Watson and Richard Spencer:

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/05/conservatives-baselessly-blame-attack-black-lives-matter-movement-blmkidnapping-hashtag/214937

    Mediamatters is pretty much the gold standard in fact checking the media.

    Like I pointed out earlier that you neglected to mention and I'm assuming check out. Paul Joseph Watson works for Alex Jones websites Prison Planet and Infowars. Let's look at a couple of clips of Alex Jones:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BKzuzjjCro

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0jyHnQ0QQ

    If this guy was standing in front of your house or business screaming like this the crisis team would be called in. Since he is a fat white guy they would probably taze him as opposed to shooting him. So you think that this is a reliable source of information?

    I know that I said "Allegedly" about Richard Spencer flashing White Power salutes while shouting "Heil Trump!" Well I've been brainwashed by the legalese of our contemporary society.

    Let's roll film:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

    But you couldn't be bothered with the 5 minutes or so it took me to find that. It is easier to look through Black Lives Matters website and misinterpret their statements. Let alone try and figure out how this crime got linked to Black Lives Matter in the first place. I'm picking on you specifically because you have been screaming the loudest and the most about this misinformation and shown your lack of knowledge and understanding.

    If you sleep with dogs you wake up with fleas.

    C/S,
    Rev J
     
  18. hotwater

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    I’m not only a defender of BLM I’m a supporter. This tragic incident has nothing what so ever to with the BLM organization and we personally find it DEPLORABLE.

    You people don’t seem to understand, we’re currently sitting on an emotional powder keg just waiting to explode. If you want to go down this road and lie about BLM activities to support your racist agenda go right ahead.


    Hotwater
     
  19. tumbling.dice

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    Who you calling 'You people'? :D
     
  20. Asmodean

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    The irrational people who are not only out to point out the dubious actions of certain BLM supporters and other black people but are so frustrated with this whole issue that they try to convince others how BLM itself has no validity in any way :p (is my guess)
     
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