Black Lives Matter Accused Of Tying Up And Torturing Disabled Man

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

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    By the way, to all you Bernie supporters out there, it was Black Lives Matter who sabotaged his Seattle rally by stealing his mic. Making him look like a weakling and a joke to potential black voters. Bernie's polling numbers were soaring against Trump's when the two were compared. Let that sink in.
     
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  2. Meliai

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    Are you saying this is why Bernie lost the primary? I dont think it remotely is.

    I thought he did the right thing. Those chicks were rude for sure (but again, not representative of the whole movement) but he would have looked like an asshole if he tried to kick them off the stage. He let them say what they wanted to say which shows he is willing to listen to people. I dont see how he would have had more black voters if he bulldozed over them
     
  3. 6-eyed shaman

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    Well it sure didn't help him with the black vote much at all as most of that went to Hillary during the primaries.

    If he had his security team escort them off the stage, he'd have just made the women look like ghetto lunatics screaming for attention. He absolutely did the wrong thing as he made himself look like a putz.

    Since Hillary cheated, it didn't make much of a difference. But if it was an honest primary, it's tough to say if that would've cause him to lose.
     
  4. tumbling.dice

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    It wasn't BLM, it was Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford who disrupted Bernie's rally, according to Google anyway. I doubt they officially represented BLM, it looks like they just acted on their own.
     
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  5. 6-eyed shaman

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    No true Scotsman fallacy
     
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  6. drumminmama

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    On the street conversations with the locals, the prevailing attitude was disgust that this was done at alone to someone with a disability, and made to look as if it was BLM accepted.
    Most business owners here support BLM. My office has a sign, along with "refugees welcomed."
    General feeling is when tides come in, all boats rise. There's an expectation that people do have to self-advocate, but that it doesn't tear down others. We are a few miles from the Berkeley city limit, on Telegraph Avenue.

    Racial make up? 55 percent African American and African immigrant, the rest almost even between Caucasians and Asians. Several restaurants advertise halal meat.
     
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  8. Beutsecks

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    You're so right. I liked Bernie far more than Trump up to this very point. When he sat down it was like watching a schoolboy head to the corner to wear the dunce cap. It was so pathetic that I couldn't imagine him in the top seat. Only Carter was cuckolded more, though I admit the Iranians were not two angry little girls.

    I already knew I didn't want the Bush or Clinton dynasties in the white house again. As things unfolded it became obvious the only agent for REAL change left was Trump, whom I have despised for decades. What I can't get over is all the childish hysteria over Trump and all the arrogant twats who think they are qualified to call a billionaire a "moron", incredible.

    While I certainly don't love the guy, I did see him win according to the rules in place. Bitching about those rules after the fact is as useless as trying to get a refund at a horse track for placing a losing bet. When I was in high school we studied the electoral college for 2 very boring weeks. It was a stroke of genius from our founders when you consider the result. Each state we have is just that, a state. Let hat sink in. We as a nation are the United States of America. Each is an actual state, able to make its own rules according to the desires of its population.

    Ok, I guess it's time to slide back on topic.
     
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  9. drumminmama

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    MOD HAT ON: Far beyond time to slide back to topic.
    Start a new thread elsewhere for conspiracy/theory.
     
  10. Beutsecks

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    One thing I saw on T witter that rang true for me was that this kid, Austin Hilbourn, was reaching across racial lines by himself to make friends who were black. He was making the effort so often lamented as lacking in society. Just look how his "friends" treated him. Will he be so willing to reach out again? It's more likely he will have nightmares and PTSD for the rest of his life. Perhaps the victim of this horror should be the primary focus as opposed to "proving" it wasn't something else.
     
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  11. drumminmama

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    Sometimes, people are cruel and use social movements as a cover.
    Sometimes, youtubers are racist mental midgets and use social movements as click bait.

    Living in the cradle of the Black Panthers teaches people a lot. Good and bad, about all sorts of people.
     
  12. MorphGirl

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    Very true. I pisses my off that the media tried to label it as something else and I said the same thing above with him reaching out ... and I doubt he will again.

    I don't know if you read my response to you regarding the book, I know what the translation is. I never read it though.

    Did you see the donation page for Austin? I hope his family have kept him away from the Internet and media or screen everything he reads. Last thing he needs is to read the bs spewed by the large networks where by sympathy was leaning towards the criminals.
     
  13. Beutsecks

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    It's an interesting read actually. A lot of redundancy, but you can readily see the transition from despair to frustration, to anger and ultimately a bit of the psychosis that followed years later.

    I last saw Austin's GFM page when it was at $80K (of the $10K they wanted). It's one of the things that gives me faith in Americans.
     
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    A friend of my moms was from germany, was married to a german soldier during WW2/// he, her first husband spoke out against the party and was shot infront of her. She was a writer and a part of the White Rose, if you know what that is?

    Both her parents died during the fire bombing and she said it was necessary to put an end to things. Later, after rebuilding some she came to Canada and married a Native man from here who as also a WW2 vet on the other side. Well there is a reason I am telling you about her.

    She did a translation for the Canadian Government of that book. She told me a fair bit about the ramblings of this writer. She remembers seeing him in person and was also on a bus once and was given a card to come to a location. This was for being a breeder... to have liebensbourn babies. She didn't go/// She said they would have measured my head ad I would not have been right for the program anyways. Te stories she told and the things she saw. Was quite frightening.

    The fund for him is up to 87000 now I think. I imagine all this will go into a trust to pay for counselling, education... or a home so he always has a place to live.... something that gives him safety and security throughout his life. I just hope others do not try and fake something like this in order to get money. There are a lot of scammers online. My faith in people has taken a hit over the last few years. I just want a little good news for a change and it is great to see people giving to someone who probably doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
     
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    great parents let their half retarded kid go to Chicago with just anyone..
     
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  16. Reverand JC

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    OK a few things from my own insights/simple google search:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/us/black-lives-matter-chicago-facebook-live-beating/

    This to me is what makes this especially sad:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4095726/Victim-Chicago-race-torture-asking-friend-idolized-black-gang-charged-beating-burning-chanting-f-Trump-f-white-people.html

    And what especially frosts my ass is the fact that one of the perpetrators takes care of his paralyzed brother like that makes him Martin Luther Fucking King! That is what makes this especially deplorable to me.

    Not that I advocate for white supremacy but let's throw these fuckers to the Aryan Brotherhood and broadcast it on Pay Per View. I'd pay $20 to watch that. For the record if it was 4 white guys doing the same to a black person I'd say throw them to the Nation of Islam and broadcast it Pay Per View and I'd watch that too.

    I haven't watched the video since I'm worked up enough and I lost the fascination with snuff/torture videos after I turned 30. I especially felt burned when I found out that "Faces of Death" was 60% staged.

    C/S,
    Rev J
     
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  17. Reverand JC

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    Alright now that I got that little rage rant out of my system ponder the following:

    In order to pull off something like this with the reactions that they were having there are some severe mental health issues in the perpetrators. In spite of skin color they were doing this to one of their own. Kind of ironic isn't it.

    I feel for the families of all involved. The family of the victim will have to deal with the aftermath of this incident for the rest of their lives. The families of the perpetrators have to deal with the fact that their loved ones committed crimes so unbelievably heinous that there is no excuse for them. Nothing like figuring out that you are related to the devil.

    The best that these people have to try and bet on and attempt to get is an insanity defense. It's kind of like that line from "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas", "Even a wolf that eats babies is entitled to legal defense."

    C/S,
    Rev J
     
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  18. Beutsecks

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    Are you really victim blaming HERE? Of all places? If this is your position on torture, what's your take on rape?

    This guy thought he was making friends. Instead they were racist demons.
     
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    comprehension not your forte.
     
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  20. Beutsecks

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    Rev,
    I see and feel your frustration. Perhaps this is a kind of insanity, ginned up by political media whores concerned more with ratings (cash) than humanity. It's disgusting to see the people who dumped gasoline onto this fire now step back and say "this has nothing to do with OUR movement" when it so clearly does. How long can people preach a message that "ALL white people are racists" with no regard for the results of that effort?

    What these demons did to Austin was obviously a product of both the media's need to have "sensational stories to sell" AND the rhetoric of hate that BLM sugar coats with "oh, we didn't mean THAT". All lies, pure lies. This kid was trying to reach across race and make friends. How can he possibly see things now? Who can blame him for being wary of black people after being tortured by them for days?

    I'm weary of anyone claiming there's "no connection to BLM". They KNOW they're complicit. So naturally they blame Trump. Assholes, all of them
     
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