Black people arent racist...

i still don't quite see what you're getting at

if all this is so bad

why is he professing the same thing?

answer the question please.

 

you're talking about a huge double standard.

and further

i'm being condemned for something someone else has done.

i've only ever been mugged by somalis

shall i victimize and say i only expect black people cause crime?

 

Because that example is but the tip of the iceberg in a long history of warfare and genocide spread over millennia which is endemic to the race.

If it should be allowed to continue it will ultimately lead to the death of everyone on earth which it almost did at Alamogordo on July 16, 1945 when leading up to the first atomic test it was theorized an atomic explosion could cause a chain reaction in the atmosphere and destroy the earth

It didn't happen but what arrogance, the mitigated gall


Hotwater

 

so you're telling i should be a victim of racism

because of some hokum argument about biological genocide?

nonsense.

what have i done personally to you...

i just think it's rich you can say these things in a different age

regardless of past truths

when you are (as far as i am aware) living in a fully integrated society

where the most powerful man on the planet and leader of your

'god-forsaken white menace of a society' is a black man.

some black people need to get off their soapbox frankly.

they claim they want racism to cease to exist

but constantly remind themselves and others of it.

since it's held over the white younger generations

isn't that really dragging a black persons ancestor through the dirt as well as mine?

it's almost like black people are happy their ancestors were treated awfully

because it gives them a reason to think the world owes them a living.

i'd want to learn from it and move on.

no offense... just my opinion.

 

but thank you for sharing your opinion with me.

 

Unlike The New BBP I denounce the professor because even if 99% of whites were evil there’s still the other 1% and I believe in protecting the innocent :2thumbsup:

Hotwater

 

well said

and i'd expect nothing less.

in all fairness

you seem like a really nice guy.

 

Everyone should be judged by their actions not their race. :2thumbsup:
300 years of slavery and oppression, can you blame the professor for showing bias if not contempt?

Hotwater

 

When I say racist I don't mean just hating another race I mean having a generalized view of an entire nationality- basically stereotyping .

And if you've ever had a friend that was racist and befriending you mostly so they wouldn't be perceived as being racist- you'd know that was far more irritating than being insulted or assaulted by someone you don't know and will never see again.

 

I agree.

But the fate of american black culture is depressing.

Their grandparents fought water hoses dogs and batons, and then my generation (not that I'm black) have a tendency to be thuggish and to make a conscious choice to be dumbasses with no culture. They don't have whitey's culture, and they threw away their ancestors culture, they think that hiphop is a culture..... When it's just wannabe thugs like them talking about how badly they want to be thugs.

The black people I've met from africa are very interesting. They tend to be much more intellectual than african americans, but when they end up being pulled into african american cluques, it CAN (not that it will) bring them down to their level.

Of course, these are vague generalizations, and thankfully don't apply to ALL blacks, any more than you can say all whites are cross burning lunatics. Just most of each population:2thumbsup:

 

Yup. And they are actually polite and respectful.

 

As an "african-american" person...http://featheraniweda.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/stories-of-post-modern-race-relations/

I totally understand the many different cultures within the african-american paradigm. There is a big list of rules and like any clique, people are afraid to do something that is taboo in that culture, which leads to a number of people all following the same ignorance.

I definitely think it is related to the larger "American culture" that has persisted over the last few hundred years. I also gravitate to Africa and people with known roots in Africa. They have real access to their culture and sense of pride and belonging that African-Americans have forge in the "fake it to make it" tradition.

Overall though, I'm vastly interested in all cultures and I really have seen it in all cultures/races, but I admit it's pretty prevalent in the African-American spectrum, but I think a lot of that is due to the media popularity which promotes a certain "black attitude" and fuels the ideas to other cultures and within the "black" culture what "we" are like and what "we" stand for.

However, I have also seen it in Native American culture and Latino culture, in which I am also a part of and I have also seen many, many, many people of all these cultures that don't represent these stereotypes, but in poor areas especially you're going to see these limited viewpoints and limited habits based on experiences because the people in those cultures haven't seen anything different or don't believe they can do/be better. Of course some people will standout and be independent of the culture in which they belong to...and even people who have privilege will mock and emulate the culture of those who are basically victims of society and further perpetuate these stereotypes.

Whenever I'm around African people they ask me where I'm from...whenever I'm around Latinos they ask me where I'm from...more often than not, when I'm around African-Americans I don't know, in african-american neighborhoods they assume I'm just like them and speak their language and want the same things they want, and I don't. I think this just shows there is in general a lack of diversity and varied experiences in a lot of these neighborhoods. In otherwords they are victims themselves of the stereotypes because they think to be black they can only talk, walk, act a certain way, and that is how people view them and they will only be accepted if they act "black enough". They don't know how diverse "we" can be, and they are afraid of people who break out of the bubble and express themselves in ways outside of the "black code".

Are the neighborhoods full of one race? Because if they are, wouldn't you expect that when the people went into places with other races they would gravitate towards those they're used to being around?

 

And from what I've seen Africans stay away from African-American cliques. I'm mostly just talking about my very international high school and college and work experiences I've had.

 

Very well said, Honey. That was so awesome to hear coming from a black woman.

 

a few times in london, black woman have called me a f***ing paki and a dirty rag head, so racist? yes.

 

I'm not going to accuse you of being racist, but I don't think it's justifiable to condemn a culture as being a certain way. Not even on the issue of whether or not each person represents the certain behavior that you identify in a culture, I just simply can't see how one person can judge another group's culture.

You say "no culture" but don't you realize that that's a ridiculous statement. It simply doesn't happen. In every group of humans that live together, there forms a social dynamic which is their culture.

Black people have their own culture, which I find to be largely intelligent, practical, and entertaining, as are most cultures in their own way. In fact I would say that this is a function of culture, to identify and preserve the intelligent, practical, and entertaining ways of life that a group of people lives by.

If you don't like the way these people live then obviously, you have no reason to partake in it, but to say that black people have no culture, or to criticize the hip hop culture (any culture for that matter) is far too closed minded to be accurate.

Again, I see your point that there are a lot of uneducated and purposefully deviant/harmful black people out there, and that the world we live in portrays that as a good thing, perpetuating it. Certainly that is it's own culture, but to try and attach that culture to black people, well that's something that crosses the line into being racist. Thugs are thugs. They come from all backgrounds.

IMO when you think of a group's culture you're not thinking about the horrible things that some members of the group do, you're thinking about the communal way of living. Certainly here in New Orleans there is a boatload of culture, and a lot of it is centered around black people, but not limited to them. Seriously, it's awesome.

This post is less anti racist and more pro culture. I don't think it's fair to put any culture down, because no matter where you go, people suck, and some of the people are not good people, so the best way to distinguish is through the positive aspects. Generally when one speaks on culture they speak of the great and interesting food, music, and entertainment in a place, not the crime.

So to conclude, yes the hip hop culture is a culture, and yes black people overall have lots of different cultures. All of them have their good sides. No one can rightly say, "those people don't have any culture." The statement reeks of ignorance.

 

Well said. And while up-thread I talked a bit about some negative implications of African-American culture, I'm actually writing a book about some of the positives and explaining some of the neutral facts related to it.

While there is a lot of crappy hip-hop, there is also a lot of extremely intelligent hip-hop, there are also groups of african-americans who encourage each other to make a difference in the world, there are families who are strong and caring and pass down amazing traditions, etc. Some have the luxury to freedom of mind, and some do not.

Also, this culture, which could be called black or african-american culture, is also inclusive of caucasion, asian, latino and other people, who ever decides to embrace the culture, either by growing up in that environment or later adopting it, is included and that doesn't really make it black or african-american culture does it?

 

After 300 years of slavery and oppression we’re still trying to rediscover our lost culture, let alone focus our attention on others

Hotwater

 

Wow, so much hatred and ignorance in this thread, pretending to wear a gorgeous robe of knowledge taken centuries to weave . . . . . . sorry but the Emperor (and many others) have no clothes and your nakedness is seen.

As soon as anyone wants to generalize about a whole group, especially with no direct experience being a member of that group or living with that group as a family member . . . . as soon as you choose to generalize wearing this fine cloak, your nakedness is seen.

 

this is so silly.

unless of course you are black and white and asian and indian etc. etc. etc.

and further

all your family must constitute each member of society like this also.

i mean - how else would you know what is ignorant or not? lol

this is by your own admission.