Black Swan

Discussion in 'New Movies' started by newradicalface, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    All theaters are dark =P

    I'd say it's more of a weird than freaky, if you get what I mean. It certainly doesn't try to get your emotions going even though it is very shocking at parts.
     
  2. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    Anyone ever seen The Red Shoes? Old movie with the same basic plot..
     
  3. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    ^^never saw it but i've heard a bunch of old people raging about it at a special showing of it
     
  4. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    yea its old, like 1948 old.
     
  5. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Ok. I am back from the theater to report. It was everything I expected, which is good. I really wish, for the movie's sake, that the [barely] sex scene and [barely] masturbation scenes were not the first thing discussed. It takes away from the high quality of the movie.

    Besides that, I found it personally very touching. Her situation paralleled a period in my life from about 7 months until 3 months ago. While she was prompted to lead role in her company, I was thrust into a highly competitive, respected graduate school. And, like her, I began to suffer psychotic breaks as the stress mounted (I have Bipolar with Psychotic Features, which is essentially Bipolar+Schizophrenia said nicer). It actually scared me more than it would most people, since it was unbelievably accurate the type of psychosis she experienced at each level.

    It brought back some scary memories for me, but it didn't detract from the film. It was great and I look forward to buying it in DVD.
     
  6. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    I disagree. I thought at least the nearly sex scene between the ballet instructor and Portman was quite powerful. All/most of the sex scenes I think were in her mind as well apart from I'd say the masturbation scene. The bit where her mother suddenly appeared sitting in the room was in her mind.
     
  7. Duck

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    I do think the focus on the sexual scenes is somewhat insulting to the movie, but at the same time, you wouldn't believe how many great movies I found because of sexy scenes.

    And I do agree with McLeod, that Vincent Cassel and Natalie Portman's scene is a part of the movie's strength.
     
  8. largeamount

    largeamount Senior Member

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    nothing in the film supports this conclusion
     
  9. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    Why would her mother come into the room and sit there while she was masturbating?

    She imagined it, obviously. Same as she imagined the lesbian love scene. Her "lesbian" friends account the what happened the night before was quite different if you care to recall. It was her confused/delusional state of mind from years of malnutrition and sexual repression.
     
  10. djomalley

    djomalley Fanch King

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    This movie is simply breathtakingly amazing. I definitely see it sweeping the Oscars... Natalie Portman's first Oscar Win for Best Actress?
     
  11. psychedelicg1rl

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    I want to see it just bc I used to do ballet when I was younger. and I honestly miss it.
     
  12. wyldwynd

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AglgEYkKV54"]YouTube - Black Swan Music Video
     
  13. lilHippieChick

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    does it remind anyone of JACOB'S LADDER?
     
  14. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    No, but for some reason you remind me of Juno. I don't know but it might be your avatar.
     
  15. SoulVibrations

    SoulVibrations celestial viator

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    I do agree that she imagined the "lesbian scene", however the masturbation scene her mother was asleep in the chair in her room. I don't think she imagined her mother, her mother wasn't watching, she was asleep. Considering her mother was a little crazy about her daughter its seems to fit.
     
  16. McLeodGanja

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    Feel free to interpret it how you like, but I still say I am right. Why would her mother be sleeping in her room and she didn't notice?
     
  17. Duck

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    Do you think her mother really displayed perfectly normal behavior throughout the course of the film?
     
  18. goodvibes83

    goodvibes83 Senior Member

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    and PI ;) I LOVE LOVE LOVE darren aronofsky

    i haven't seen it yet because well i'm scared to witness that alone...pansy? yes...i have to see it though HAVE TO
     
  19. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    No. Her mother's eccentricity had been contributed to Nina's psychosis for years.
     
  20. McLeodGanja

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    She seemed pretty stable to me. Portman on the other hand came across as extremely delusional and unstable.

    The scene was metaphoric of her repressed sexuality that was a result of her strict upbringing.

    Most scenes were pretty ambiguous anyway so whether her mother really was there or not is kind of a moot point.
     

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