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antithesis · Apr 16, 2005

GMO's don't need to make abundant food BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH FUCKING FOOD, WE JUST AREN'T SHARING IT AND WE'RE GIVING MOST OF IT TO FUCKING COWS ANYWAY. If people didn't need their damn 500 pounds of meat a day, we could be using that land to grow normal food and the food we do grow could be given to people and not to animals.

Maybe you don't care about the environment, but I do. And I am a senior in college, and I a year away from a science degree in the environment and you do not. So you can believe your conservative propoganda if you want.

Lodui · Apr 16, 2005

antithesis said:

GMO's don't need to make abundant food BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH FUCKING FOOD, WE JUST AREN'T SHARING IT AND WE'RE GIVING MOST OF IT TO FUCKING COWS ANYWAY. If people didn't need their damn 500 pounds of meat a day, we could be using that land to grow normal food and the food we do grow could be given to people and not to animals.
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I'm going to repost this so I don't repeat myself.

Lodui said:

Theres enough food right now on the planet to feed the entire world, so if you were naive, you might think, we'll why don't we just give it to them... but thats simply impossible. The price of shipping enough food to make a dent in world hunger would be astronomical... literally hundreds of billions of dollars for one shipment, and theres also the fact that most food of dietary consequence spoils very rapidly, (meat, milk, bread, veggies.) we could probably ship twinkies and pop tarts for an insane amount of money, but that wouldn't really combat hunger at all.

Another problem in delivering the food is one of the major causes for hunger... a lack of infrastructure. Many of the places that need this aid so much, don't even have roads... this makes giving them food grown here impossible.

These poor people have dirt, they have water, they have the sun, but they mostly use innefecient slash and burn croping methods. They don't have the machinery to harvest large amounts of this food, they lack the hybrid strains that produce more food per acre, and they often don't have enough infrastucture, (roads, markets) to distribute this food... so while one village may not have enough food, another village has too much, and some of it rots.

Using only organic croping methods on currently existing farmlands, we could only produce two thirds of the food we are now.

So one major step in the allocation of more food for the third world is the introduction of hybrid plant strains, or so called, GM crops, which produce more food per acre, and can thrive in harsh climates.

The US can't ship food produced here to Africa... most food spoils quickly and the shipping costs would be astronomical.

But you can ship seeds and spores, and since hybrid crops can germinate more effeciently, they are ideal for the third world.

the USDA the FDA, the EPA, and the WHO have all approved GM crops sold on the market for human consumption.

The benifits of Bio-tech are limitless, crops can produce 8 times yields, survive harsh climates, survive refrigeration longer, be less suseptable to pesticides. (The US is ruining Columbia's countryside to fight the drug war)

And Hybrid crops can also have more nutrients then regular crops, golden rice for example, is rice infused with Iron, a nutrient not usaully found in rice, making it a very effective to fight anemia, which affects a large part of the world.

http://www.biotech-info.net/GR_tale.html

This story above illustrates the fallacy of the corporations are only seeking to make money on hybrid crops, as Golden Rice was donated for no profit by the Government working together with bio-technnology firms.
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antithesis said:

Maybe you don't care about the environment, but I do. And I am a senior in college, and I a year away from a science degree in the environment and you do not. So you can believe your conservative propoganda if you want.
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I care very much about the environment and am very intrested in ecology... I'm majoring in chemistry.

Maybe we disagree on the issue, but you're the one who doesn't want to debate and tries to shrug off what I've said as conservative propaganda. I'm not a conservative, so your total dismissal kinda falls apart.

I'd hate for some scientific inquiry to shake up your world view.

This experiment is with plants that pollinate themselves in an isolated area, so its not possible for them to mix with food crop.

Even if they could defy natural reproductive methods and get into budweisers beer somehow, its still perfectly safe, and might actually give the beer some taste.

But its not intended for food, its intended for medicine that could save thousands of lives if the luddite evil corporate bastards at AB weren't trying to make a 'purity' advertising campaign.

Bellfire01 · Apr 16, 2005

Lodui said:

For the most part, I drink Heineken anyway.
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If you want people never to complain of thirst then send them a Miller. (It's so nasty I'll just bet people would prefer used toliet water lol.)

Lodui · Apr 16, 2005

Bellfire01 said:

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If you want people never to complain of thirst then send them a Miller. (It's so nasty I'll just bet people would prefer used toliet water lol.)
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Miller Genuine draft is ok... I think I prefer it to bud select.

High life is ok too... I don't really like lite beers, since most have no flavor.

maybe I should ask Pressed Rat's advice on decent non AB domestic or cheap imported beer... That man knows his beer.

pink floyd · Apr 16, 2005

Lodui said:

High life is ok too...
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Hahah.. the champagne of beers??? *shakes head* that stuff is nasty.

ihmurria · Apr 16, 2005

sleeman's honey brown is the only beer I've wandered across that I truly enjoyed drinking, not just drank to get drunk. *sigh* I only have one left in my fridge

pink floyd · Apr 16, 2005

You people need to try some microbrews.

Lodui · Apr 16, 2005

pink floyd said:

Hahah.. the champagne of beers??? *shakes head* that stuff is nasty.
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I'm talking compared to crap domestic beers.

Beer snob.

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