BOYCOTT GOOGLE - Censoring Hippy.com!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by skip, Apr 16, 2006.

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  1. PeaceMonkey

    PeaceMonkey Member

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    ok i just read the whole thread, and skip, i hear what you're sayin bout google and they shouldn't be doin this, but mellow out man. people have their own opinions about google so don't be goin around callin people trolls. but other people, before you go posting your opinions read what skip's been sayin or you'll say somethin stupid and make him mad. but yea google's bein annoyin and shouldn't block us (or other sites) out for speakin their minds.
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I remind all posters on this thread that there is a User Support forum for problems and complaints. Posting complaints elsewhere will get you banned, as they are off-topic.
     
  3. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html...... gl skipper, i'm sure this is a pain in the ass.http://www.google.com/webmasters/4.html
     
  4. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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  5. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I don't think it is intentional ..

    I was adding thatif you wished for a 'hippy forum' then you are right at the top... If you are looking for a particular site.. you might add 'Hippy.com' or something along those lines... i can see that [and i said] '' i would wonder about this..''

    No i would not.. but then i would only want it to be at the top..if i owned that particular website.. If it did not come close to the top given some 'hippy language' lets say.. then i would be none the wiser.. Going on the 'flawed' google.. doing the same search your just not the top of the tree any more...

    The finer details about how those search engines work.. no i never even attempted to say i did..




    I knew what you were talking about... just if you wished for Hippy.com to be at the top when you typed hippy or hippie.. then fair enough.. but people type in random searches and ultimately i think you don't have it that bad overall..

    You have every right to kickoff about it if you feel your revenue is being effected.. thats why i said ''He'll probably take it as me insulting him.. no true.
    I can appreciate his point to a degree ''

    Fair enough .. sorry Skip.. It is more than a mole hill.. i appreciate their is a 'problem'..

    Is their any need for this:

    THIS IS CENSORSHIP!

    Why would google do this? Well let's look at what happened in China. Google decided to play ball with the repressive Chinese government and censor any and all sites that the Chinese government doesn't want its people to view. This runs contrary to the spirit of the Internet and such censorship would be frowned upon in any other democratic country.

    So it begs the question. Is Google now censoring American Internet sites as well? Especially those with a certain political mindset that the US government doesn't appreciate?

    Google has gotten real good at repressing Free Speech!


    which is no doubt one of their objectives, as they're also censoring hipmarket.com.

    Here's something interesting. This thread was started on 4/16. As of 4/19 our traffic on hipforums.com is suddenly up 30%!

    How did this happen? Well apparently, Google suddenly cut this site loose, as now instead of google returning less than 20,000 pages, google now returns 687,000 pages for hipforums.com!!! We've never had that kind of indexing from them before.


    See for yourself:
    http://www.google.com/search?source...hipforums%2Ecom

    Coincidence? I think not. Google has been monitoring this thread, cause their name is in it, and of course the word "boycott". I knew it would get their attention!

    Thanks google! Now just free up hippy.com and hipmarket.com and hiptravelguide.com like you did to this site, and I'll sing your praises. [​IMG]

    [and so on]



    All that IS OVER THE TOP...

    It seems hippy.com is loseing out on revenue.. THAT part is legitimate.. Claiming Google is working in some machluvelian way and censoring these sites akin to some tin pot dictatorship.. is crazy..none of thatis really going on.

    Imho Skip has a perfectly reasonable point about the loss of revenue .. i'm not argueing over that so much.. just the way he has gone to town with it [as per usual]..



     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    If Google is willing to censor sites in China, there's nothing stopping them from censoring sites in the USA, if the gov't asks. Do you think they'll advertise that fact? NO.

    If you'd read the WHOLE thread you'd see that hippy.com isn't the ONLY liberal site being censored by Google, and that others have been told by google that their sites contain "UNACCEPTABLE CONTENT". Got it? Who determines what is unacceptable?

    If you'd only bothered to read the link you'd see that conservative sites ARE NOT BEING CENSORED, only liberal ones, due to content.
     
  7. knittin.pretty

    knittin.pretty Banned

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    I wonder why google would do this.

    A few of the links that were recently posted seem to say, on Google's behalf, that this is fairly random, and not a punishment against your site. Could this be true?
     
  8. wildfire

    wildfire Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    damn it! i'm running out of friggin search engines! i was boycotting everybody but google after i read that they were the only one who had the balls to stand up to the u.s. gov't and not give over all of their records, and i have been defending them when ever people bring up the fact that they are censoring websites in china because of that. i guess i'll switch to that acconna thing now. i knew google was too good to be true.
     
  9. wildfire

    wildfire Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    and you know it is not just that it is one of the most popular sites on hippies is not coming up when you search hippy, that is bad enough, but just that a site called hippy.com is not coming up when you do the seach for hippy. usually even despite popularity when your query is the name of a website that is up on the first page.
     
  10. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    Skip, you keep bringing this point up. After reading the whole thread and all the links posted within, I still don't understand the link between Google definately censoring China and Google maybe censoring hippy.com just because it doesn't come up early in the google search... or am I still missing something?​

    I am reading the links. Granted the order of search pages are coming up different now than what they were, I'll give you that... but still.

    I'd be interested to see, Skip, once you do your legal action or whatever action you're doing with google, to see what progresses of it :) I think many of us would be!
     
  11. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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  12. Night_Owl49

    Night_Owl49 Since 2006

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    Ha, those bastards. [​IMG]
     
  13. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yeah this site is up, but the rest are like they don't exist on google. Again, this thread is about HIPPY.COM, HIPPLANET.COM, HIPMARKET.COM, NOT HIPFORUMS.COM
     
  14. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

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    it was thru hipmarket that i found the forums. it's unreal that they're censoring you, skip.
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Here's proof Google is Censoring Hippy.com!



    This is a google report on Hippy.com, showing google searches that have resulted in clickthrus to hippy.com.

    This shows that Google IS INDEED CENSORING HIPPY.COM.

    It shows only ONE keyword, that placed 266 (that's on page 26 of results).

    This is pathetic, and will help our case against google!

    [​IMG]

    BOYCOTT GOOGLE! USE OTHER SEARCH ENGINES! PASS THE WORD ON GOOGLE CENSORSHIP!
     
  16. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    I've switched my homepage and my search toolbar to Clusty.com from google. I find it much more useful a search engine and its privacy policy is excellent.

    Youll also be interested to know that hippy.com is the top search result on Clusty! :)
     
  17. catstevensfan924

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    hippy.com does show up on search.com when you search "hippy"
     
  18. indescribability

    indescribability Not To Be Continued

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    Edited.... Sorry I didn't read the entire thread before posting, and realized that question was already answered.


    Also, they will definitely be hearing from me, and I will not use google, or any search engine powered by google, until this is fixed. I will also pass the word along to others that are heavy internet users, and hopefully others will do the same. There are thousands of us here, and if we tell two people....who tell two people..... you guys get the idea. We can make an impression.
     
  19. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I'm now of the notion that Google has been supplied by the US government with a list of unacceptable websites that they are purposely repressing in their index. They can't eliminate them entirely because then they'd run the risk of being accused of censorship, just like they are in China. But if they can do it there, why not here?

    We have been on a gov't list of targeted websites for many years. In addition commercial Internet filter software has excluded us from many computers in schools, libraries, businesses and homes.

    When Google was confronted by the government over their refusal to hand over their search data, it was JUST A SMOKESCREEN. What was really going on was the gov't demanding that google impose censorship on certain sites, a la China. How could google refuse after they agreed to do it in China?

    Of course you'll never hear about it, cause it comes under the heading of "national security" and such a conspiracy would hurt Google's credibility if word got out. Well I know for a fact that our sites ARE being sent to the BACK OF THE SEARCH engine bus, and it's NOT JUST GOOGLE doing it anymore. So it MUST BE the US gov't providing all the big search engines with this list, and forcing them to censor these sites!

    As you can see we are already LIVING IN A FASCIST STATE, and it's getting worse day by day, while we activists DO VIRTUALLY NOTHING about it.

    I'm doing something about it!

    I've just launched HIP Search, an alternative search engine. At first we'll just have our own sites listed, with a number of outside links, but I hope to expand it further in the near future.

    Check it out, it's on the Hip Menu in the left column.
     
  20. indescribability

    indescribability Not To Be Continued

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    hippyusa.org/
    hippyshopper.com/
    cityhippy.blogspot.com/
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippy
    adrian.smith.clara.net/
    happyhippie.com/
    hippybuggs.com/www.celticguitarmusic.com/woodstocklinks.htm
    polish[/b]hippy.com/
    alittlebithippy.com/

    How in the fuck does a wikipedia definition of the word hippy come up long before hippy.com? This is blatant and there should be no way that they could even begin to justify or rationalize all of those other sites with hippy in the title coming before a site where hippy IS the title?
     
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