breast feeding in public

8 out of 10 restaurant goers hate hearing a baby cry.

http://www.BabiesInRestaurantFacts.com/BullshitFacts

I'm sorry, but you're joking right? Do you honestly believe that people like to hear kids yell? Some kids are great at restaurants, others are absolutely horrible. Kids, inevitably, will yell and scream, because thats what little babies do! Ontop of that, not all parents have the sense to pick up the baby and walk away from the crowds to 1) calm down the child and 2) show some respect for other people. My mother took my brothers and i to a lot of fancy restaurants, but if we so much as made a peep that might annoy other people she'd take us away from everyone else until we calmed down. If that didnt happen for the whole night, she would sit outside with us while everyone else ate. Such should be the sacrifices of parents.

Call me victorian. But it wont be my family ruining your night out when you have to listen to a child scream for 2 hours while you eat a dinner.

 

Quite.

And on the breastfeeding issue; I think the comparison between breastfeeding in a shop and pissing in a plant-pot is an accurate one - neither is causing any actual problem, just a percieved "eeew icky" problem. And of course both involve 'sexual' organs.

Sure, our society has major hang-ups around this sort of thing, and why shouldn't it? You can't change what offends people, just because of your God-given right to breastfeed in public. If it upsets people, don't do it! I don't sit in public and sharpen my knives, because I know a lot of people would see that and be uncomfortable. I *should* be able to, but I'm not going to rub people's noses in it if they don't want to see.

 

Was thinkin' Hyacinth Bucket (it's Bouquet!!! ) meself.. from Keeping Up Appearances

get over yerself Megara........ettiquette is important to some......but a bleedin' baby has no control of how/where it gets hungry.....and the priority for any loving mum is to get babies belly full asap......no matter where it's required to happen....

i dunno how the hell anyone can have a grudge about a baby beeing fed....gettin' the lil' buggers from baby to adult is one of the things life is all about

Class system...acceptable behaviour, from kids! I've never heard such bollocks....it's a sad life if you feel you have to exclude kids just because they don't fit into the ambience of an eating establishement....i suggest going to the restuarant later...when all the lil' anklebiters are in bed, if it offends you that much

 

You might like to see screaming kids around; I don't, and most people don't. If no-one in the particular place minds, then go ahead and breastfeed. But if there are people getting upset by it, then they have every right to ask you to do it in private.

If you were in a childrens playground, and I got my johnson out and started pissing in the flower bed, where you kid could see all the action, would you like it? Would you ask me to stop?

 

why do you compare a baby being fed with you pissing? you do spontaneously urinate whenever you eat? or do you see both on an equal par?

 

Really? How are they different? They are both perfectly normal, natural, beatiful actions. My penis and your tit are roughly equivalent; both are sexual organs being used for their (arguable primary) non-sexual purpose. Both would offend most people. Where's the huge difference - apparently enough of a difference to make me a -gasp- pervert!

 

Breast feeding brings out hidden fear in some people, and some people are unwilling to face this; the ability to look away at first glance is always available if one feels uncomfortable.







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I'm not sure I follow. I'm not for a second arguing that you shouldn't nourish your child; just that you shouldn't force people who don't want to see it to watch.

I think the comparison remains valid; both actions are natural. Both are essential for different reasons. Both could be done in private.

We've both stated our position; clearly we disagree fundamentally on this issue, so there seems little point in continuing with ad hominem silliness.

Last post from me on this thread.

 

The female equivalent to the male genitals would be the female genitals, and not the female breasts.

A woman feeding her child should offend no one. And if you don't want to see it, then don't stare, no one is forcing you to look


Why should we cater to the most sensitive amongst us in society?

 

**claps**

well said

 

In many parts of Africa the female breast is not a visual point causing sexual arousal of the male; it is possible to consider the mouth or the eyes, for example, sexual organs because they are inimately involved in the act of sex.

Urination is an elimination of waste products from the body; in densely populated areas, cities for example, care has to be taken in the disposal of this waste product; and, providing privacy in this process makes sense for at least two reasons, (1) because generally people like privacy during the process of urination and (2) because the penis and the vagina are exposed to view, this being a situtation that many folks are not comfortable with (leading to an aspect of reason (1)). The second point along with the assumption that the female breast is a sexual organ that should be hidden from view, I believe, should not be used as justification for stopping a mother from breast feeding her child in public places.

Some folks believe that dancing is a sin, sin in this case meaning "a bad error", because it is, or can be, sexual and therefore should not be done at all or be done in public places; does this mean that dancing in public, or all dancing, should be outlawed ? We should be careful that reactionary or paranoid groups of people do not destroy or limit our freedoms or the advancement of freedom; respect for the minority and the majority should be employed in the forming of all laws, and should include basic education about our differences and how to deal with aspects of our lives that should not be regulated by law.







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You're more than welcome to disagree. I never said you werent entitled to use swear words. You dont have to attack me to have a discussion though.

And a mother can go without going to a fancy restaurant.

You may not mind hearing a little baby yell and scream while you're eating at a nice restaurant. I do, however.

Obssession with money? god, read what i've said. It has nothing to do with an obssession about money.

You're joking right? I have made no distinction between people with lots of money and not. I have, however, made a distinction between people who have manners and those who dont. It is you who are equating poor people with being mannerless, not me.

I never said women shouldnt be allowed to breastfeed, i said i hope that they would make sacrifices out of respecet for OTHER PEOPLE. You know, we all live in this world together. We need to be respectful of other people.


Oz: Please, read what i've written. I have said already that a babies right to eat trumps my right to have a peaceful dinner. However, i said that parents should be respectful of other individuals and either 1) not go out to a restaurant if their kid is loud or 2) should take their kid away if they act up out of respect of others.


Also: i dont know why someone ALWAYS brings up Africa when there is a discussion about breastfeeding. AFRICA IS NOT AMERICA(or anywhere else for that matter).

 

What on earth?! You have got to be seriously disturbed if you find feeding an innocent little baby gross, sexual, disgusting, or perverted. Wow. People these days. Feeding a darling baby is considered sexual perversion, but shows like "Will and Grace" can talk about NOTHING but sex and it's perfectly okay?

 

Do you remember what a fuss they made about Janet Jackson's exposed boob? Gawd, I live in Canada but I mean come on... It's a boob for god's sake. I know of a story where a mother pulled her mini van into an alley to breastfeed and a cop came down and gave her a ticket for parking in the alley and charged her for indecent exposure. That caused a lot of protests. Mothers everywhere went into airports and just flooded them with their boobs and wholesome milk and sat there breastfeeding all day. Oh man, that sure showed that cop.

 

Manners?

I know, I said I wouldn't post again; I lied.

 

yeah, fuck manners when my baby is hungry and the only option is a bathroom.

 

Do you object to a bottle fed baby being taken and fed in an "expensive" resturant? Because I am offended when children are fed with a substandard method! It ruins my dinner to see a baby on a bottle, especially if they are given a propped bottle while sitting in a car seat or being fed some shit like Kool Aid. BUT, it isn't my business, and I wouldn't say anything, give a dirty look or anything else. That bottle feeding mother and her child has just as much right to be in that resturant and feed her baby as I do.

MY being offended is MY problem, not hers. I won't make it hers.

Breastfeeding a baby is the highest "class" thing a person can do. LOL, OMG we're talking about "class" on a Hippy Board. I thought the idea was a CLASSLESS society.

Also, if a baby is latched on properly there will be NO "sucking" noises. God, you have issues with EVERY part of female behavior, don't you?

 

It's funny that men don't mind whipping their weiners out in front of each other.....hell, the urinals are right beside each other...

But...give a baby their milk, and some of them freak out like you just posed for Playboy in the restaurant..

You won't find any problem here...in Ontario it is perfectly legal for a woman to walk around topless in public.

 

My second one liked to make "enjoying" noises like Bill Murray in "What About Bob?" It was funny....Mmmmmm, mmmmmm, yummm

 

Oh, yeah, "nummy noises." Some of my kids did that, too. That isn't "sucking" as far as I can tell. I have been in VERY high class resturants and heard adults making "nummy" noises.