Brexit

VG

OK - Because you are unwilling or unable to address the outstanding criticisms of you view or answer all the unanswered questions – you are just going to ignore them

 

2018

The UK-US trade relationship in five charts

 

Map of Chinas free trade agreements



Map of US's free trade agreements





Notice which smart country in bottom right has free trade agreements with both

Notice which union of socialist republics just above Africa does not

List of bilateral free-trade agreements - Wikipedia

 

VG

So your reply to been asked to debate honestly - is to fill up the thread with a stream of shit, basically to have a tantrum, oh so how mature of you.

 

Sounds like you are the one having a tantrum

The misinformation with Brexit surrounding trade is just a flat out lie.

UK gets that free trade agreement with US, volume will jump up 20%, and as for the EU members, as if they are not going to scurry around trying to secure new deals

 

Same year as the referrendum, 2016

Twice the volume of exports to the US than any other country

 

Hey Vanilla.
Please excuse me, but if I were you I would just stop pissing in the wind in respect of Bulby.
The guy is a fruit and nut case who won't listen to you, but just repeatedly asks you or I or others to explain themselves.
I tried that, but I couldn't penetrate a brick wall.
Please take my advice mate.

Ignore him and go get some sensible discussions elsewhere in the forum, because wasting your life for one minute even bothering with this bloke is life time lost which you will never get back.
This thread has just turned to Dog Shite really, and trying to get that stuff off the bottom of your shoe is a really smelly jobby!

Cheers.

 

Well, its just that everyone else isnt going to tune in until things kick up again Oct 19

As for sensible discussions elsewhere, that Donald Trump Score card thread is even crazier than this one

 

VG

NOT THIS AGAIN

OK to repeat post 1279

Sorry but can’t you see how misleading you are being or do you just not understand just how dumb this argument is?

I’ll explain -

Germany – France – Ireland – Netherlands – Belgium – Italy and others European states are in the EU

So have to be calculated together

In the same way that you are grouping trade with all the 50 state of the USA together

We don’t calculate what our trade is with each separate US state like California X%, New York Y% or Arizona Z% we say express it as US 13.4%

So just for those 6 states you mentioned of the EU that would be 35.5% way beyond the 13.4% trade we have with ALL 50 states of the USA.

I believe that the share of UK exports accounted for by ALL the states in the EU in 2017 was around 45%.

And we are at this time a member of the EU which makes trade in the EU easier.

So basically near half of our trade is with the rest of the EU which at the moment is tariff free and with seamless boarders any Brexit will make that situation worse causing disruption to trade which will have a knock of effect on the UK economy.

So again - why do you think a Brexit especially a hard Brexit will be good for the UK economy?

 

Thanks for the info Vanilla.
Donald Trump Scorecard thread?
I don't think so!

 

Well at least his is better than Everton's who got trounced by Candy's local team last weekend !!!

 

OMG, you are in your own little world


But on the issue of trade, this is the key issue

Says who for crying out loud?
You leave the EU, what, ya cant sign a another little bit of paper, with the same deal? You have already done that with Switzerland

Looking at those 2016 figures, you import twice as much from Germany as you export to them. Not having an agreement would hurt them more

Your entire argument on the trade side of Brexit, along with all the other naysayers is....you cant sign another little piece of paper

 

Oooohhhhhhhhh Vlad.
You are bad.
What have I ever done to you to for you piss me off so much?
But I forgive you, as I am so forgiving.

Peace and Piss on you my Child!

 

Might soon be easier to get into the UK as an Australian than a Frenchie

UK ‘looking at’ letting Aussies live and work there visa-free

 

UK 'has 12 days to set out Brexit plans'

 

VG the next 6 weeks;

 

VG

WOW you really are badly informed, please read the thread again and this time take notes of all the things that have already been covered.

I can’t believe that you are still pushing the same bullshit that was debunk at the beginning of the referendum campaign (and at several times in this thread – I explained it on page one.)

The big leaver misconception and lie is that the EU is only about trade – but it isn’t and never has been the trade part was just one means to an end that end been the European Project.

So the poor deluded (or lying) leavers told people that any deal with the EU would be ‘easy’ and that Britain would ‘hold all the cards’ because as soon as we triggered Brexit the German car makers would demanding that the EU give us as good, if not better, deal because they sold so much to the UK.

It didn’t happen and is not going to happen – thing is that in the core states of the EU the European Project is still believed in and they see it as better to keep the rest of the EU together and if that means losing the UK then so be it.

The EU manufacturers also know that they will still be selling to the UK anyway the amount with tariffs mean it might be less but it will still go on and the trade with the rest of the EU27 is still worth more to them than losing the UK trade.

Anyone that has actually taken the time to look into Brexit know that it will have an adverse effect on the UK economy even amongst those that pushed for Brexit there seems to be agree on that although some (on no evidence) say it will be ‘short term’ while other are saying that even in the long term things are likely to be bad, it is just that they believe (on no evidence) that it will be worth it.

So again - Why do you think a Brexit especially a hard Brexit will be good for the UK economy?

 

You havent covered anything, you havent debunked anything. And no we are not going to pretend EU is one country, nor pretend US is 50 countries when comparing trade figures, just because your argument falls apart if we dont

So I point out the reason why trade isnt that a big deal with brexit, now you turn around and says, oh well its not just about trade....what a surprise

Germany is not going to sit on its hands with a situation where suddenly german cars are more expensive to buy in the UK for very long at all. You import twice the dollar volume you export to Germany, cars being the biggest import into the UK. With Germany, the UK does hold all the cards, and with the exception of the Netherlands, every other EU country is broke

Then the next thing on the list is this garbage, camaraderie bullshit. Oh, we live geographically close to each other, and we all play soccer, lets hug.....but Africa cant join, because they are too poor

80% of your economy is service based.

Yet another paragraph that doesnt say anything "are likely to be bad" because you have a feeling. And curiously in this case you attack the other side for no evidence


If EU grants yet another extension, the whole world will know they are bluffing

 

UK 'has 12 days to set out Brexit plans'


Too scared to say what is actually over

They dont realise it yet, but they mean the EU