Britain And Music

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  1. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    I probably slightly favor UK music over US but it really depends on the 'scene' and genres. It seems like the musical momentum, if you will, tends to shift.

    I like the psychedelic rock and British Invasion rock of the UK better than the US:

    The Beatles
    Pink Floyd
    Rolling Stones
    The Who
    Led Zeppelin
    Black Sabbath
    The Kinks
    Eric Clapton


    The Clash are my favorite punk band of the 70's.


    I prefer US music in the 80's over UK for the most part, although I think Acid House was a substantial improvement over the House music in the US.

    The 90's the UK really dominated the Electronic realm:

    Chemical Brothers
    Prodigy
    Massive Attack
    Shpongle

    I like Radiohead and Muse for bands around the millenium.


    What do you mean? Van Halen, Guns n Roses, Motley Crue, alot of the Hair Metal/Hard Rock bands, in the 80's in particular, were native to LA.
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I'd say the same about the Beatles, never really got why they were so huge. Though I'm not all that crazy about Zep, a few good songs, but yes a lot of it was a bit of a wankfest

    The Kinks vs The Beatles, The Beatles had more hits, but especially their earlier stuff was too simple. The Kinks wrote clever-er songs which stood the test of time better
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Britains always punched above its weight when it comes to actors, there has been a lot of them this decade, working in the US with the fake accent
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's hard to pick one over the other, since both offered a unique contribution to music.

    When looking at the Beatles, you have to consider them in the context of everything that was around before albums like Rubber Soul and Revolver. The fact is nothing sounded like the Beatles before the Beatles in terms of songwriting, composition, production values, etc. They were experimental yet commercially accessible at once in a way that no band has ever been since and probably ever will be.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Plus a ton of outstanding new wave and post-punk:

    Joy Division
    The Sound
    Simple Minds
    Echo and the Bunnymen
    Magazine
    Wire
    The Fall
    The Cure
    XTC
    Nick Lowe
    The Chameleons
    The Smiths
    Gang of Four
    This Heat
    Joe Jackson

    And we cannot forget Bowie, Roxy Music, Eno, and even T-Rex for that matter.


    For the 90s:

    Massive Attack
    Tricky
    Portishead
    Pulp
    Radiohead
    Suede
    Aphex Twin
    Autechre
     
  6. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    Ha Ha Cant Believe you all missed out the best ever Brit band ( in my humble opinion of course )
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFr7Y3qAEU&feature=youtu.be&t=77



    They were Punk , Heavy metal , Blues , ballads You name it RIP Steve
     
  7. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    There is a overdubbed version but this is the best
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echXBlcsj20&feature=youtu.be&t=76
     
  8. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    What I mean is that Central England was considered the epicentre/birthplace of heavy metal in the early 70s. And some of the key people later moved to LA.

    It was later on in the 80s really that LA produced glam metal/its own equivalents of heavy metal etc. But either way, you couldn't count LA as the epicentre of heavy metal, because by then, metal had spread around the World. Yes Motley Crue, G&R and others were very successful, but not pioneers or part of a birthplace/epicentre in the same way as the early 70s bands..
     
  9. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    Vanilla:-

    But Britain is 60m people. I know a lot of British actors go there. And also a fair number of people we think are American are actually from Britain. But the Brtish film industry was in a terrible state for ages. Even today, you don't see a lot of films at our cinemas with a British cast, set in Britain.

    And TheProdu here's a list:-
    http://www.ranker.com/list/musicians-turned-actors/ranker-music?var=3&utm_expid=16418821-95.1qjMvFhnTUe61_EDzZKP9g.2

    http://www.nextmovie.com/uncategorized/top-musicians-turned-actors-page-2/

    If a pop singer goes into films, you dont necessarily just lose them as a singer. You could be losing them as a writer, a co-writer etc in later years. Across different genres etc
     
  10. guerillabedlam

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    The mention of Billy Idol kind of threw me, I think Van Halen is every bit as pioneering as Billy Idol.

    There is only one Black Sabbath, Zeppelin as pioneering is kind of questionable because as has been mentioned they basically rebranded blues rock and made it louder with a unique style. I like Zeppelin a lot though. But I guess that's what I was getting at when I mentioned 'scenes' the UK Hard Rock/Metal scene at that time was quality.

    While not metal per se, The Doors and Frank Zappa came out of LA in the late 60's as well, both pioneering and influential.
     
  11. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    For sure. But... the UK took the rock crown away, early in rock's history.

    In classical music, Germany, Italy, and Austria (in that order) lead the world. England might be a distant third.

    The Stones and U2 also did extensive study in Memphis.

    The weirdest story in music geography has to be the production of modern rock in Nashville, which has nearly a 100% country culture. [​IMG]

    Timing. It's hard to judge them fairly when you know so much about what came after them. Same can be said for Elvis.
     
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  12. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    ....began as a blues cover band. Their tutelage included the music of Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson , Slim harpo, Elmore James, Bo diddly, etc.

    The blues had a baby, and they named it Rock'n Roll!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZveMYqEqJyI
     
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    Scream for me Long Beach..
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Can't say nothing about hair metal, never got into it but yeah the Doors is a great example in that regard. Black Sabbath is of course seen as the father of heavy metal (but we can't dismiss bands like Blue cheer, Iron Butterfly or even Jimi Hendrix) and bands like Sabbath and Zeppelin were highly influential but with bands like the Doors and Sabbath for me their sound just stands on itself. An utterly brilliant mix of blues, rock n roll and something of their own that makes it stand out above bands like Led Zeppelin any day.
    Personally I really got into most things of Richie Blackmore as well, and it didn't got less great after Dio (american) joined him. Where it comes to 'classic' rock it seems to became a big interplay between UK and US pretty soon and it didn't hurt shit imo. I can't even pick a fav country on this matter! Although nothing suits me more than early Sabbath and some good old Hawkwind, rock (and my taste in it and love for it) would not be the same without the Doors, Hendrix etc.
     

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