Bromo D-Fly / 300 ug

Well, I figure if 2 mg's of DOM is equal to 100 ugs of d-fly (a 20x increase in potency), then a 10 mg dose of 2-CB would be equivalent to 500 ugs of the flied...

...I've eaten Ecstasy several times, and I've never suffered any dain bramage.

 

I´m holding thumbs!

 

Well, as soon as I get the 2C-B-Fly, I guess I´ll start with 250mics... better be cautious!

I was wondering, if the Bromo-Flies have the same intrinsic safety as the original compound, 2C-B. On the latter, I´ve gone up to 120mgs without severe problems, friends of mine have already gone up to 350mgs...

 

Regarding dosing of 2C-B-FLY and likely commentary on the FLY series in relation to physical and/or unwanted side-effects profile…



Per Shulgin: “2C-B-FLY is active in man at an oral dose of 10 milligrams (Shulgin, 2003a)” (From: http://www.nis.atr.jp/~ray/pubs/Tucson04/2C-B-fly.html )



Given that Shulgin listed the 2C-B dose range as 12-24 mg in PIHKAL, it is likely that there is an increase in potency, but no more than a factor of 2 at most. Unless unusually sensitive to PEAs, one could probably start at 5-10 and work up from there.



In theory, a higher potency material should have fewer side-effects (pro rata) as it more directly targets the desired receptors requiring less overall material distributed throughout the body. Still a 2C-x is not a 2C-x-FLY, so be on the look-out for possible significant differences in duration and/or flavor.



All of the above was based on theoretical conjecture rather that empirical research. It is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or cause anything that might be misconstrued as a disease by the FDA.

 

O.K. folks, I just got my 2C-B-Fly and I´m about to try it next weekend. I´ve been searching the web up and down, but the only dosage I´ve found for this material is the 10mgs we´ve already heard about, no trip reports so far.

So if anyone out there can tell me about what to expect at which dose, my gratitude will be unlimited!!!

 

Same here, looks like we get to be the guinea pigs.

The only posts I've found on other forums merely speculate that the poster is referring to bromo d-fly, or furthermore, that it doesn't even exist! *lol*

 

Dam eat haven't seen you post in a while.

 

Yeah, been busy workin' and lickin' white powders out of Air Mail envelopes.

 

A report of 2.2 mg. at BL

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=3559708&postcount=12

I guess this stuff is out...

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Pure hypothetical guesswork here, but if one were in a country where it were legal; one might start at approximately 1 mg. to rule out allergic reaction. One might want to try a dose of 5-10 mg. after that (assuming no strong effects were noted at 1 mg.). One would guess, that 10 mg. + will be the preferred dose for most folks as Shulgin is generally considered to be a low doser. Still, the FLY could easily be more potent &/or have a notably longer duration, as the compound may not metabolize as easy as its non-dihydofuran ringed counterpart.

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d-fly sounds like a horrible drug... i mean is tripping really worth all the bullshit? i understand wanting to try something new but this one just seems like a poor choice. maybe ive done enough psychadellics to not give a fuck about trying new ones anymore. same shit, different size pieces of corn in the turd if you ask me.

 

2C-B-Fly is legal in every country (yet).

Why an allergic test? If you were really allergic to a RC (which sounds weird to me) 1mg could be as dangerous as 10mgs. If you were really about to check, if you´re allergic to a substance, you should do the test with the smallest dose possible (maybe approx. 10ug?).

Not always, remember his reports on 2C-P!

It has already been said on several sites, that the 2C-B-Fly is know to be double as potent as 2C-B. The duration should be around 9-14 hrs.

O.K. guys, thanx so far. Any more ideas or hints will be very much appreciated until next Friday.

 

Well, quasi-legal. Under the Federal Analogue Act here in the US, if the state can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an analogue of a scheduled compound (2-CB, Schedule I) was going to be used for human consumption then you can be charged with posession of a Schedule I compound, even if it isn't scheduled. This can also lead to other charges (for example, intent to distribute, international trafficking, etc.) linked to the material in question (in the context of a single case).

I'll plan on 10 mg for an initial dosage.

BTW, what happens to the dihydrofuran after the material's metabolized? Is it known to cause any kind of damage in and of itself?

 

I'm looking forward to read your reports, guys ;-) Wish you pleasureable EXPs ...

 

Do you happen to have access to any preliminary reports about the qualitative effects of 2C-B-FLY? Would really be interested to see excerpts.





As for the allergy bit, some persons have previously reported a strong histamine/allergic type reaction to both 2C-B and 2C-I. It may be the case that certain persons could experience a similar reaction to 2C-B-FLY.



As for all of the above comments about dose, duration, etc… as I stated they were purely theoretical and based on hypothetical guesswork… which as usual, may be close but aint worth much once you have good empirical data.





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O.K., the I shouldn´t need to worry too much. Have done 2C-I more than 20 times and 2C-B more than 50 times (up to 120mgs) without any problem, for I don´t think that the ring structure should be causing an allergic reaction...

 

So, r u guys gonna try it today?

 

I'm getting all the final touches prepared right now...getting ready to weigh out my caps; still gotta run to the store and pick up miscellaneous supplies, etc. I'll be posting the report as it happens, look for the thread about 10-ish (Eastern time).

 

O.K., I´m just out of the 2C-B-Fly right now, no problems with the trip.
I´m going to write a detailed report during the next days (but don´t expect too much folks, because I was quite disappointed - the 10mgs were very boring...)

 

One has now seen posts ranging from 2.2 mg. to 22 mg., with several at 10, 12.5, 16, 20, & 22 mg. Most of the writers gave only brief cursory reports.

Some excerpts below:



“I love this drug all so mild on the body for me i feel there is a lot more potential to up the dosage everything is just too beautiful outdoors im constantly feeling amazing with this music on still… For sex this goes along PERFECT… theres been no depth to it or at least not this time round.” Someone who reported ingestion of 20 mg.

“i would say 'A' .. really nice material… feeling alot like mdma. It does have an empathy and openess component but its not as inappropriate as with mdma. Nice patterning, color enhancement, CEV's some vivid. Very somatic I can feel my body very well… From what i've read of 2c-b it seems to be pretty much the same. Overall i would say its not a very deep chemical, but quite enjoyable.” Someone who reported ingestion of 22 mg.

“T+ 12 hours, 12.5mg, had a "pleasant evening" it felt nice ,the come up is very steady, very physical type of hit , sex excellent but not in the same leauge as 4aco Mipt, visuals were inferred rather than seen. Overall a nice(if somewhat pricey) material but probably not one for the shamans amongst us… i'd give it a B+.” Someone who reported ingestion of 12.5 mg.

“day 2 at 22mg there was a definite noted tolerance with little visuals, not as euphoric feeling somatic component still present in full” Someone who reported ingesting 22 mg. after having taken a similar dose the day previous.



“Took about 90 minutes to be noted, with feelings of chills/temperature change. Didn’t really hit until about T + 2h… T+6.5h still effects… T+8.5 still effects, but at most +1… T+12h sleep possible and achieved. Slept near on 12 hours, awoke with no notable after effects… Some tummy awareness, some chills, and pupil dilation. No other significant side-effects noted… very balanced material, a little mood lift, a little patterning, a little depth of thought, a little aesthetic appreciation, good CEV… Not bad material, but it seems that every aspect can be done better by some other material… will attempt again around 20-23 mg. If there is nothing ‘special’ there, will probably not seek to do again. Again not bad stuff, but so far nothing that cant be beaten by another material for each particular aspect (2C-E for visuals, 2C-I for introspection, MDxx for body feelings, etc.). If it’s safety profile were known to be favorable, it might be a good ‘trainer’ psychedelic, as one would be hard pressed to freak out on this one, at least at this dosage.” Someone who reported ingestion of 16 mg.



Ok beyond what is posted on this forum, this is about all I have been able to find so far.



IB