Bush's achievments as president

He hasn't done a single positive thing.

 

well..i love you too

 

Bush can personally come over to my house and yank on my stick a hundred times and i would be happy too.

 

I dare anyone to say he has been a good president, apart from yelling through the megaphone and giving speaches after 9-11, which I think anyone could have done. He is pathetic, democrat, republican, or other, I don't see how you could feel otherwise. He has even defiled the name of conservatives..his alleged supporters.

 

that man has spent so much money, he could give paris hilton a run for her money........

 

If you had found loads of links showing foreclosure rates are at an all time high, I'm sure you would have provided one. So you must be lying.

 

I dont know how it is in your part of the country but here in TN forclosure rates have skyrocketed. And plants all over the state are shutting down. American jobs are going overseas. Banks aren't giving loans anymore. no new businesses (except wal-mart) are springing up. the economy is pretty shitty. yada yada yada

I'm not really not interested in facts and data. I'm just interested in seeing whats going on all around me and by the looks of it, it is pretty bad right now and has been for a couple of years.

But I guess that sort of stuff could happen even if you have a good president in office couldn't it?

anyways my second question is if Bush were recalled now or even six months from now do you think he could be re-elected? after all he never takes responsibility for the bad, but always takes credit for the good. Why has he never said, "yeah, my bad. sorry I fucked up" Do the American people finally recognize this trend in the Bush Administration?

 

Great, you say you don't understand what they're doing, reject everything, and then conclude whatever you want based on anecdotes and pure speculation. I can see the appeal - it is impossible to be proved wrong when you are just making things up our of thin air (like those foreclosure figures you refuse to back up).

Does every country do this? Has it always been this way? Is every single political party and every government department and university and journalist and independent research institute and financial market analyst in the country in on this great big scam? Are there alternate figures (e.g. the labor force participation rate instead of the unemployment rate) or alternate sources which you can use instead? No, start asking questions like that and we'll soon see you have no interest in offering solutions, just throwing your hands in the air and condemning everything.

Because when economic numbers show bad news - e.g. during the recession in Bush's first term, when GDP stalled, unemployment and foreclosures went up, and the deficit ballooned - did you throw your hands in the air and say you couldn't trust the statistics and who knew where the economy was going? I doubt it. Numbers which support your economic doom scenario are good, those which don't are bad.

 

hm. good point. people believe the numbers when they want to or they're convenient. i've noticed that on both sides. let's face it, spin control is a sickness.

 

The thing is that even during the peak of the boom under Clinton, there were people who were unemployed or who had fallen on hard times. There has never been a period in US history where someone, somewhere hasn't seen their living standards decrease even as they rose for most others. So if you rely on anecdotes you're not proving that things are getting worse, you're only showing that for some people it has, which could be true under any economic conditions.

Wow, you'd do just about anything to avoid backing up what you say wouldn't you? You're so worked up about it yet the easiest solution - providing a link to evidence you claim is so easily found - is beyond you? Pretty lame, dude.

 

The poverty rate increased the past four years, probably due to the recession. The poverty rate is still lower in the U.S. today compared with the early 80s, at least according to government figures. I will try to find the link showing the poverty rate year by year. I was just looking at it about a week ago.

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what has the Bush Administration (specific bills and such) done to turn the poverty rate around? has it worked so far?

 

I'm referring to percentages of the entire population. For example, the poverty rate declined in the 80s after the recession of the early 80s was finally over. It does go up and down.

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http://www.plu.edu/~poverty/stats/home.html

The trend in the 80s and 90s are similar, probably due to the heavy recessions in the early 80s and early 90s. The poverty rate has increased the past four years in a row, probably due to the recent recession.



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This thread is old, but it's worth it to bring it back just so I can tell you that you're an arrogant fool. I'm astounded that you actually called pointbreak "boy."

I think it's funny that pointbreak listed a number of positive things that have been accomplished during Bush's term, yet almost everyone in this thread has chosen to ignore them in favor of "oooo he's a piece of shit that has never ever done anything right and will cause the united states to fall apart and be washed away by the sea!"

As much as I dislike the extreme right wingers, there is absolutely nothing more irritating than the throngs of ignorant super-liberals. All you do is throw insults around.

Bush should not be the president. Obviously there should have been a better candidate out of the quarter of a billion people in this country. However, he's not the cause of all of this country's or the world's problems that you all would love to make him out to be. Would John Kerry have waltzed right in and fixed everything up? Probably not. We'd be in the same situation we're in now, just with a different figurehead to hurl insults at.

 

Not really. That act was to be implemented by non-military means, if I remember its wording correctly. Bush invaded with the military.

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