CAMPBELL34 VS. LIBERTINE :The War To Settle The Score...

Well let me call up my connections in the "Scientists that Hate Christianity Club" right now and get right on that for ya...

And you know, Ron Wyatt didn't show any of his archeological evidence to be verified scientifically, so why I'm on this one with the club why don't you find out why Ron wouldn't share his creationism evidence with any scientists...

 

So what if there was or was not a flood? The real question is the interpretive observation of events.
One could say The Great Turtle shook himself, and the water fell upon the earth causing a flood. So great is the Great Turtle that the drops that He shook off flooded the whole world!
The interpretation of any observation depends entirely upon the intellect (or lack of) of the observer, and in no way defines any fact. Because a person might perceive or imagine The Great Turtle does not make The great Turtle real. Likewise biblical "creation"

 

because there is no such evidence? I havent even heard you describe what the evidence actually is. All you say is "evidence that would debunk evolution". Prove first that they wont let anyone see this "evidence". Prove who 'they' are hahahah you make it sound like some elaborate conspiracy. Tell me, in your crazy conspiracy theory, what do Evolutionists stand to gain by persecuting those backing ID?

 

I've been googling for info on this Table Top Mountain, but haven't found anything except stuff about hiking...


Edit:

Natural23 had a wonderful post addressing this in "The 'Free Will' Excuse" thread, and I think we should maybe continue the conversation there rather than splitting it up into two different threads.

Link here"
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123976&page=29&pp=10

 

Try this Sera Michele
http://web.uct.ac.za/depts/geolsci/cape.htm

 

No such evidence, tell that to NBC. If there was no such evidence why did the Natural History Museum at the University of California at Berkeley just tell them there was no evidence. No, they told NBC they would not allow them to see the items found there, and then tried to convince NBC not to make the documentary which involved items found at Tuolumne Table Mountain.

What do Evolutionists have to gain by persecuting those backing ID?
Don't you understand? Professorships and millions of dollars of grant money are at stake here. Evolution has become an industry of it's own. Not to mention the massive ego's that are on the line here. Many men have made Evolution their lifes work. For this industry to continue nothing that would sidetrack this belief can be tolerated. If Evolution is discovered to be false, it would be like an earthquake in the field of science. Why do you think they are fighting so hard to keep ID out of the text books. It's because ID adresses, and would expose much of this information.

The person who has brought this to our attention Michael Cremo, to my knowledge is not even a Christian, and I don't believe I would agree with him on some of the points that he is making. But I believe when it comes to evidence being kept from the American public, I believe he has hit the nail right on the head. You can read more about this at the following web site.

http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/conference/Qc00/speakers/speaker_cremo.html

Quote "All I can suggest is that you read FORBIDDEN ARCHAEOLOGY, or its abbreviated form THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE, and realise for yourself that we are being denied the truth regarding the origins of our own species"

 

Sera found this one for you, you might find it of some intrest.
http://www.mcremo.com/door4.htm

 

Well Sara, Wyatt pointed out where the real Mt. Sina would be found and the Red Sea crossing site. These sites have been confirmed by other scientist. On one of Wyatts posts there a a number of question and answers. I believe He answers some of your questions there.

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/Talk4-6-96.htm

You know I can identify with Wyatt somewhat because like Wyatt back in 1979 I located one of the most sought after ship wrecks in lake Michigan. Yet few would believe me because I did not have the GPS numbers. I found it in a time when GPS was not popular, so I used a rather crude land sighting device. I'm hopeing in the next few years to have my boat up and running and this time I will tow a video camera in the same area which is innerfaced with GPS and a VHS recorder that will overlay the GPS LAT.& LONG. over the video taped bottom. Sometimes when you find things some find it impossible to believe, even when you can produce good evidence. If I told you of my encounters with the finding of this wreck, it would sound just as strange to you I'm sure, as some of the stories that you have heard from Wyatt.

 

Oh for God's sake!! that wyatt IDIOT cannot be cited as credible in any way shape or form!!
dead set campbell34 ~ you're lost in a frighteningly disturbed world....your own mind!

 

The world think's we're insane... so be it!

 

Now what about the scientists that have also concluded such findings... Cry "Witch" and say they are insane...

http://www.exoduscase.com/VideoClips/Index.html

 

YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE EASTERN GATE... IT IS SO SIMPLE... YET YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN IT?

WE ARE STILL WAITING...

 

Then stop calling my faith a fairy tale because you cannot even explain the simplest of the prophecies...

 

Prove it... Like I've been telling you... I have been waiting

 

Campbell, I haven't plowed through Forbidden Archaeology, but am somewhat familiar with the ideas presented. This book makes the case that the human race is much older than suggested by popularly-accepted evolutionary theory, and that the scientific establishment regularly dismisses and supresses evidence that could mount a strong challenge to traditional thought on evolution. From many of your previous posts, I'm under the impression that you believe that creation occured as literally described in the Bible, and that the time of creation can be dated from this description...about 6,000 years ago. You recommend reading Forbidden Archaeology, which "hits the nail right on the head" when it comes to supression of evidence, but clearly does not support your belief in literal Biblical creationism.

Please clarify where you stand.

 

I have presented the evidence and you refuse to refute it...

 

An ignoramus cannot be taught, nor will they ever learn , anything other than what they already maintain. Only those whith eyes can see, and those with ears hear. That is why you have no idea of the substantial proofs that have been served on a silver (OK< plastic at times) platter over time in these discusions.
Your mythical "east gate" is a christianized rewriting (midrash) of history so as to suit the christian lie, because the real and historically correct name of that gate is the Golden Gate, and it has been so named since it was built. There is no other name for the Golden Gate except for christians who seek to distort truth and deceive.
Furthermore, neither the OT nor OT prophecy is the possession of christianity. It is the sole possession of the Jewish religion, but
Christianity seeks to steal it, use it for it's own purposes, and pervert it's true meaning so as to prop up the christian lie. Not once have you or your kind been able to refute this truth!

 

You will go to great heights to discredit Christiananity but when the other side presents facts you look the other way... That is horrible and weak debating...

Hope you were never in debating class...

Teacher: Why won't you give your reuttal?

You: Because I think it is BS

Better yet imagine you as a lawyer... You would be the worse lawyer of all time... "I don't have to prove he is not a murderer because his charges are BS"

 

ONE and only one question... Which dirrection does the Golden Gate face?

 

MrRee, you seem to have learned to ignore all other sources that have confirmed some of wyatts most important findings. Wyatt has been dead for a number of years now, but a number of others have confirmed what he stated about the Red Sea crossing site and Mount Sinia. I cannot just demonize a man and ignore all the other sources. The facts are there, if you are open to facts.