Can I be vegetarian and still eat fish?

Right on guys, well said.

 

If nothing else it would make you wonder what else they are lying about.

 

Hey there!
"Considered vegetarian" by whom? By yourself? By fruities, veggies or pescoes?Does it matter? If you are concerned that people will harsh you because you are saying that you don't eat meat, and actually do eat meat, then I would worry. Either skip the fish, and really the dairy and eggs as well, or don't call yourself a vegetarian.
Life shouldn't be all about labels, but it is. After all, I came here to talk with people of like-mind, so I googled some common labels to find you all here. You understand. We use labels to ID ourselves to others all day long.
Be real with yourself first and foremost. Don't label yourself something you're not. If you want it bad enough, anything is possible. If you want to be a vegetarian, be one. If you don't that's cool, too. There's nothing wrong with eating healthier than the mainstream, but not being a true vegetarian. Do be at peace with what you are doing, however-whether that's eating meat or not.
peace
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Yes you're right, it's like a club - people join to feel better about themselves and to bond over their mutual feeling of superiority over those who are not in the club.

So minkajane, to answer your question, you have to ask yourself why you want to be a "vegetarian". If it's because you want the "I belong in the club" feeling, as you can see, you're going to be getting some flak for not being a pure-bred.

If it's for a truly personal reason and you feel good about your dietary decisions, then that's that - you really don't need anyone else's opinion.

 

Don't you find that a little arrogant to even think that you know why we all joined here? And how bitter! Though you might style yourself a hard-nosed realist. Personally, I really enjoy talking to people, regardless of having the same or differing opinions than my own.
If you are here to lord your own allwise superiority over others, how sad for you. For me, I am here to learn-share recipes, get ideas and differing viewpoints on things.

 

I think it's pretty clear that you don't understand what veg*nism is about.

Yes, it is about morality. But NO, it is not about feeling superior.

PETA is for feeling superior. Not vegetarianism/veganism.

 

thats equally as incorrect as what rigamarole said about veganism

 

I'm not in the club to begin with so i'm not here to state my superiority over others not in the club. I'm just here to state that the term veg*ism should not be used loosely, which is all too commonly the case.

This is just the typical stupid sh*t i'm subjected to everytime I see the guy, this was just the latest. Sadly, I don't believe he even thinks he's lying... he's just using the term loosely , and that's what i find so annoying.

A chicken is not a vegetable, it's as simple as that.

 

Actually, it's quite correct. PETA spokesmen have OFTEN commented on vegetarians' moral superiority and higher awareness than the regular populace.

In addition, PETA spokesmen have ALSO condoned TERRORISM and the use of BOMBS to destroy meat facilities.

As a vegan, I severely dislike PETA. If I could disband it, I would. They don't accomplish anything except pissing off the public and pushing omnivores away from the path of vegetarianism, instead of being accepting.

"Critics also point to a statement from Alex Pacheco, one of PETA's founders, that "arson, property destruction, burglary, and theft are acceptable crimes when used for the animal cause" [25] as a reason that PETA should lose its status as a non-profit organization. [26] Part of the reasoning behind their concern is the degree of financial support given by PETA to these organizations, [27][28] associated with firebombings and other destruction of property, and described by the United States Department of Homeland Security as "terrorist threats." [29] PETA has also been accused of operating animal shelters that kill more animals than most publicly operated shelters in the United States. [30]" - Wikipedia.com

 

"fish...but no meat"

so just what is fish, then? a fruit? I don't think so.

Fish is meat too. Why is it so hard for some people to see fish as living creatures too!

 

I think that we can all agree that a certain amount of public misinformation and acceptance is responsible for that. TONS of folks still honestly think that being a veggie is not only harmful, lethal, but also near impossible! That HAVE to be eating something-at least fish and cheese.

 

That's true sandpedlar. I have no problem with ppl who consume limited amounts of flesh calling themselves predominantly vegetarian, that's ok.

However, seafood consumption has just as large of an ecological footprint as beef consumption IMHO. So if one cuts out beef but then makes up for it with seafood consumption then I don't really see that as much of an improvement for the environment. But if one reduces overall flesh consumption with still some animal consumption, but in reduced overall amounts, then that is still ecologically beneficial than not reducing at all.

So if one only consumes fish once or twice a week and that is their only flesh consumption then thumbs up to them. But if they consume fish on a daily basis then they are no better than the rest of us omnivores with regards to the ecological footprint.

 

while the spokeperson for PETA may feel however she feels, to say that all that are associated with PETA feel supreme to others is wrong. They do piss people off but I think its quite ridiculous that grown adults would allow themselves to be offended by a few words or ad campaigns from PETA thus overlooking the REAL issue which is the TRUELY offensive issue.......the meat industry.

Whatever, PETA is a whole other conversation that I dont care to get into, but just because someone works with PETA on getting the message out does not mean that they are moral and ethical snobs. I personally dont care if Ingrid Newark thinks she is far above other people....the message she is trying to send is what is important.....moreover I dont care what sort of people (maybe christians who oppose abortion) feel that they are morally above me. Who cares? doesn't necessarily make it true.

i just can never understand people who cry and fuss over others who "think they are superior" morally or otherwise. maybe they are, maybe they aren't, maybe the whole thing is subjective......but who really cares what someone else thinks? has no effect on me if they think they are better than I am.

 

Yes, but welcome to reality: Grown adults are just that stupid.

It happens every day. PETA does infinitely more harm than it does good.

That's fine. I'm not saying that the people who belong to PETA are snobs, I'm just saying that PETA itself is that kind of an organization; one that claims moral superiority, and insists that terrorism is an acceptable means to ending ... well, terrorism.

I disagree. The interpretation of the message she is trying to send is what influences other people.

It's good that you want good things to happen. But if all you do is cause bad things to happen ... and you persistantly ignore the fact that other people have pointed out that all you are doing is causing bad things to happen ... you're just ignoring the problems and offending people, getting nothing done.

 

i see what you are saying and i agree with you.

PETA as an organization is not just Ingrid and her spokespeople.....it's also people from all over who want to join the fight in making this world a safe place for animals......not all of those people -because they are members of PETA - are claiming moral superiority nor do they feel that way. thats all i was saying.

 

Then indeed, we agree. =)

 

um this post was pointless, i mis-read. sorry.

 

Ah... I knew a guy once who lied about being vegetarian (when he still ate chicken) to impress me. It kind of backfired when this self-confessed vegetarian forgot and mentioned that he ate roast chicken when he visited his mum. Heh... you should have seen him try to explain and backtrack.

 

yeah why the hell do people lie about it, I really don't get it.

Apparently a lot of people do.... my friend was telling me about this girl I know, I always thought she was veggie, but I guess when other veggies aren't around she eats meat constantly. It's like ok, fine if you want to eat meat, that's your choice, but why run around lying? I hate dishonesty in all shapes and forms, so whether or not "you can be whatever you want, or say whatever you want" that doesn't mean it's right.

Dishonesty really makes me want to throw up.

 

You impaled her with a sharp, pointy object, right?