Can Marijuana cause birth defects?

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by Lilyrayne, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Recent study published by a Biopsychiatry Journal

    In other words, when controlled for tobacco use, there were NO differences between babies exposed to MJ in the womb and those not. IT WAS THE TOBACCO, not the pot.
     
  2. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    You have to know HOW to read studies, not just beleive everything DARE tells you.

    Here is a good article, which explodes improperly interpreted studies.

     
  3. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    thanks for working so hard to keep us educated Maggie.
     
  4. Super_Grrl

    Super_Grrl Crazy love

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    Smoking pot while pregnant doesn't seem like a good idea to me. While pregnant you need to be doing what you can to be healthy for your baby - you owe them that. I don't think smoking pot while pregnant is doing what you can to promote a healthy environment for your fetus to grow in. Besides, if you can't sacrifice some weed for the sake of your baby, are you really mature enough to HAVE a baby?

    (side note: I'm not saying anything about using it for morning sickness...i'm saying this about women who are pregnant and still smoke recreationally, like constantly)
     
  5. Dakota's Mom

    Dakota's Mom Senior Member

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    Like I've said before smoking anything can cause the problems that go along with smoking. This includes low birth weight and possibly prematurity. But pot that is not smoked does not cause ANY problems for mother or baby. At least not in any research that I have seen. Pot absolutely does not cause FAS or even FAS like symptoms. Folks, I do this for a living and I have never seen damage to the child from pot use. I still would not use any drug recreationally while pregnant. That includes Tylenol and aspirin. But if you need something for morning sickness or things like that, pot is a lot better than a lot of the junk your doctor may give you.

    In answer to the question about family services taking your child away. Yes they can and they do. I have had many clients who smoked a little pot and used no other drugs. They are in my program because the state took their children away and they are trying to get them back.

    Kathi
     
  6. BlackHoodedCrow

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    That's pretty pathetic. People defending smoking pot because of morning sickness!!! Ohhh boo hoo you have to throw up!!!!! Talk about being selfish. You are now caring for another human being! You don't own the right to do what you want to your body!!!! friggin' hippy morons. Gods forbid people take away you pot!!!!!!! losers!!!!!!!
     
  7. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    You can never be tooo careful. I think just to be safe for their kids people should not smoke while pregnant. Lungs are developing and are the last things to develop in a baby ... plus smoking makes the heart pump so fast in the baby its not good for them to be gasping for fresh air inside you. Its like getting smoke blown in your face.
     
  8. EarthyFemmeFatale

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    Um, actually, morning sickness can go far beyond just a little throwing up. Many women have such severe sickness that they become severely dehydrated and malnourished. It becomes life-threatening for the baby and puts the mother at severe risk. I myself was sent to the hospital by my ob/gyn and the doctors wnted to give me anti-nausea drugs, which I knew are often times dangerous to the baby, so I declined and promised that if it got worse, I would definately come back. Luckily, it didn't get worse and in time it went away. For some women, they are not that lucky.
    I've seen first hand some of the side effects of anti-nausea drugs. I've met a girl that lost her arm due to the drugs while her mother was pregnant with her. She was lucky, some babies died because of it.
    If a little pot in *extreme* circumstances can help and can prevent these side effects, I'm for it. If it comes down between the lesser of 2 evils, I'm in favor of it. But not for recreational use or for the mild, annoying morning sickness.
    Don't be so quick to judge.
     
  9. Lilyrayne

    Lilyrayne Chrisppie

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    Very well put. I also know a girl that had a VERY rough time with morning sickness, was hospitalized multiple times and almost lost her baby, or ran the risk of damaging her baby, due to the malnourishment and dehydration. This went on for the ENTIRE pregnancy, which ran to 42 weeks. If I was in her situation, I would have smoked the MJ, or eaten it, versus the meds in the hospital, which didn't help much anyway, but just caused more problems. She was pretty bad off and almost died. Sometimes, it's not just nausea.

     
  10. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    Name one person here who is saying they are not giving up pot while pregnant, Blackhoodedcrow.

    Your ranting and insults suprise me coming from someone who should be a little more mature than most of us here.

    This thread was created to debate whter or not MJ causes defects, not to defend the right to blaze while preggers.

    Lighten up, you old bitch. Get yourself laid. (and I don't care about lowering myself to her level. a 30 yr old woman should know better than to stereotyoe us all as hippies, call us pathetic, morons and losers.)
     
  11. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Black Crow.

    Crow, didn't you, in a previous hippie hating thread tell everyone in THIS forum "Later losers." and leave? (Or as you spelled it "latter loosers.") And wasn't that thread edited by the Moderators, due to your using the REAL first and last names of a family you thought should have their children taken away, because the kids had weird names? You have a LONG history of hippie bashing. I don't understand why you continue to post here, if you are so disgusted with most of the people who post here, and their lifestyles.

    http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33586&page=1&pp=10




    State your opinion if you like, but Cease and desist the hippie bashing and the personal attacks. .



    Consider this a warning. You are becoming abusive, as you did in the aformentioned thread, it will be dealt with like any personal attacker would be. You can state your opinion, even if it is not a popular one, as long as you don't attack other posters. If your line of attack continues, this will be dealt with.

    I see you have learned how to actually spell the word "losers" congrats on that. :rolleyes:

    If we could get back to the discussion......that would be cool.
     
  12. Super_Grrl

    Super_Grrl Crazy love

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    Maggie .... you're fabulous as ever. :) BlackHoodedCrow is obviously just looking for an argument, since both threads (this one and the one in your post) are about virtually the same topic. BHC, isn't it time you moved on?
     
  13. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    I still don't know what I would do. If morning sickness is as awful for me as it was for my mother I might try a brownie or cookie with ganja butter. My mom was feverish and puking and was put on bedrest just from the sickness she got when she was pregnant with me and again with my brother. She was helpless for 3 months. Her body just thought her fetus was so forgein and tried to expell whatever it was. Her doctor back then (when preg. with me) suggested it, but she never tried.

    It's not about sacrificing anything for me. I would give up the world (and I will ;)) when I plan my baby. It would be about the benefits I could gather and knowing that I'm not harming my baby in any way.

    What happens to your metabolism when you get pregnant? Does it go up, down, no effect? Just asking because I know that drug urine tests for MJ have a great deal to do with metabolism. higher M gets you clean results quicker.

    I would never want to eat something for the morning sickness and have my baby taken away 6 months later.
     
  14. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Pregnancy emesis (severe vomiting in pregnancy) can be very dangerous. I have a freind who had severe emesis, and because she couldn't eat, or take any supplements, her child was born with Spina Bifida (which can be avoided with enough Folic Acid and good nutrition early in pregnancy) it is NOT her fault, but the child will suffer the rest of her life. I think it would have been better if she has used the weed and been able to eat.
     
  15. Lilyrayne

    Lilyrayne Chrisppie

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    That must have been what my friend had, that I posted about yesterday. (emesis) I didn't know there was an actual term for it.
     
  16. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    It is officially called "Hyper-emesis of pregnancy" and it can be very dangerous for the mother and the baby. I hope your freind was OK.

    There are pharmaceiticals which work well for it, in some cases, but not everyone does well on them.
     
  17. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    I just thought of something. How do they get these facts? Do they perform tests on actual pregnant women? Are there girls out there who just smoke away in a room and get tests done?

    How could you put your baby at risk like that?

    I might risk my own body for testing, but I would never do that to a poor unborn child!
     
  18. Maggie Sugar

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    They don't intentionally expose pregnant womyn to drugs. They get the data from people who have tested postive for the drug, or who had to use it theraputically. There are no clinical trials for drugs on pregnant womyn done in the USA.
     
  19. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    oh, ok. that makes me feel better ;)
     
  20. Dakota's Mom

    Dakota's Mom Senior Member

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    Bree, I also took the drugs the doctor recommended because I was so sick. Over the course of my first pregnancy I lost 90 pounds due to the extreme sickness. I don't know if the drugs that the doctors gave me caused my son to have the multitude of problems he has today or not. But I do know that the drugs my mother took when she was pregnant with me in 1950 has caused many or the problems I have with my female parts today. They just didn't research these drugs thoroughly enough. But it has had profound effects on women my age.

    Kathi
     

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