Can you have unity with people that want to overthrow the Union?

The US typically sends two aircraft carriers to knock out all the air defenses, power, radar, water, etc. In Haiti's case, one aircraft carrier is extreme overkill, and carpet bombing is what you do later if necessary. Just to use up all the old ammunition if nothing else. The first bombers were on the way to knock out their power and defense, when Jimmy Carter intervened.

 

OK, I agree. So why do Black's need help that Jews didn't? Racism will be slowly erased over generations. The hatred spilled from parents to kids will get less every generation. Black lives matter being rammed into every home only reignited forgotten thoughts. Stop talking about it and one day someone will think to themselves 'remember times when racism existed.

 

The latest evidence supports instant karma. If you pay it forward, you are more likely to live up to your own moral ideals and thrive better in the long run. Seniors in particular, will spoil their grandchildren and donate more to charity, explaining why people live as long as we do. The evidence is actually a small mountain at this point, including quantum mechanics, but our universe obeys self-organizing yin-yang push-pull dynamics, and racism is related to your immune system, and can be cured sometime this century.

 

Total load of bullshit nonsense. Only thing I agree with is that racism will diminish this century. That is if it is let to naturally instead of forcefully. The rest of the shit you spouted is laughable.

 

People live longer now because of evolutionary morales and compassion in general towards all, which allowed collaboration and shared knowledge to slowly advance human civilisation generation by generation. I don't know where you get this evidence from (which is a small amount) but I can see that the general assumption from you could be adapted. Still think total bollocks though.

 

Some 80% of the public applies their morality in a deliberate manner to others, but not themselves. If you know nothing about the science of morality, I'd suggest you might want to learn, because it appears bullshit is all you know.

 

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Understand the numbers behind your 80% morality figure of now and how it calculates into years going forward. Please do not think I don't, I do. That morality will follow forward but it will have a lot of loss inflicted on it when power and responsibility takes toll. Just saying. Dont want yo argue with you because I understand where you're coming from. Just my personal opinion is that it is bullshit

 

Let's be honest, it would take the United States of fucked up America many centuries for your moral maths to work. Your maths would work to almost the 99% mark in UK by 2040 easy. But you will still have that top 1%. It is an impossible statistic which I hope I live long enough just to see how you're wrong

 

I do know bullshit, glad you recognised. Maybe you will before you usher off this planet (doing human kind a fsvour)

 

You are speculating about a subject you know absolutely nothing about, the science of morality. Again, I'd suggest learning it, because your ideas about morality are crap.

 

You are speculating with your figures.

 

Alonso

Could you please read the post -

A polite notice

The politics forums are about debate and the seeking of knowledge and in that light it involves people asking and answering questions – otherwise people can state lies and fake news even knowing they are lies and not be pulled up on it

If people are unwilling to answer plain and simple questions the only conclusion is that they are purposely spreading lies.

Anyway I’ll ask again

Can you back this up in any way?

What are you basing that opinion on?

 

Jane

There have been and are many groups and institutions set up to help many groups including the Jews – as to movements many Jewish people were involved in setting up labour and socialists movements through Europe as these groups were more likely to promote civil rights and equality. That is why fascists often associated Jews with communism (Many Jews became involved in Communist parties, constituting large proportions of their membership in many countries, including Great Britain and the U.S)

Jewish left - Wikipedia

Battle of Cable Street - Wikipedia

So you are suggesting some groups do not want to ‘help themselves’ – what groups?

 

Alonso

But as pointed out Jews did need help, so that argument doesn’t work.

What are you basing that view on? I mean you seem to say earlier that you think white people are more developed than others which is something that promotes racism.

Only if that hatred is fought and not promoted

What ‘forgotten thoughts’

And it would seems to me that it would only be seen negatively by those that don’t take the opportunity to be educated on the problems it is trying to highlight.

Stop talking about the gangrenous cut on your leg and one day someone will think to themselves 'I remember the times when you had two legs’.

 

Alonso

Do they? Why do so many oppose universal healthcare in the US?

Why do so many oppose doing anything about climate change in the US?

 

People with extremist views less able to do complex mental tasks, research suggests

GOP Opposes 'Critical Thinking Skills'

 

I doubt we needed research to figure that out...

 

TO answer to OP's question .......................... NO you can't have unity. The U.S. has survived - up to THIS point - by following the Constitution drafted by the founders. We are NOT guaranteed to survive into perpetuity. The LACK of educated people in some circles, allows those who want to retain power at ALL COSTS, to formulate all sorts of lies and misinformation to mislead and confuse those poorly educated people. Those undereducated people tend to swallow any story line that "seems" to make their lives better, and so they vote for the ones who make slimy, used car salesmen look like pikers. If the poorly educated folks actually UNDERSTOOD the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and that we DO NOT have an autocratic, dictatorial form of government with only 1-party rule, they would see through some of the BS that's been spewed by the crooked, criminal, lying, subversive people in politics.

For those who DO NOT know - fascism is an autocratic form of "government" whereby ALL opposing political points of view are suppressed (at minimum), and/or crushed with violence (usually), rigid censorship is installed by those in power, and strict regimentation is enacted to force people into "being obedient, subservient, docile workers." Speak up .......... or voice a different viewpoint ............ and you get thrown in prison, or executed.

Soooooo many Americans CANNOT see the cliff we approached on Jan. 6th, 2021. Trump ......................... and EVERY ALLY of his ....................... tried to overturn a free & fair election to retain power - much the very same thing as a fascist dictator does - and re-write laws and rules to STAY in power for life. (Trump SAID with his own yap that he thought he should be president for life) - like his idols, Putin and Xi Jinping.

So to expect unity with a group of insurrectionists and subversives is IMPOSSIBLE if we want to stay a democracy in the U.S. Those sorts of people DO NOT WANT a democracy ........... they want A DICTATORSHIP.