Cancer treatment with cannabis oil

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by ChronicTom, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. OptimisticFutureBlues

    OptimisticFutureBlues Member

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    I'm not speaking for everyone most definitely...but I hold strong reservations, or suspicions against the way treatment is approached by medicinal law in the states and in other advanced countries in the world.

    I feel that compared to this herbal treatment, all other forms of treatment have the potential to be extremely harmful on the body. So I agree with your analysis on chemo, I feel as though its extremely accurate. They are giving medicinal marijuana to patients to alleviate the symptoms of chemotherapy. More and more though, its becoming apparent that its actually the marijuana that has the potential to do just about as much good as the chemo. Right there you can snap your fingers and safely say "It smells like bullshit".

    Why would they continue to treat cancer in ways that have been proven harmful in preference to an herbal treatment that is less harmful to the body and mind? Enter greed. It has to be the ONLY reason that chemo and radiation are still around to treat them. Its either the greed, or they just can accept that mother nature has given us a simple cure, they can't get over the simplicity. Not only that, once its mass produced...compared to its current prices...it will be near worthless to corporations 'standards' of profit.

    We've given them too much, they have a big appetite. Like a fat kid telling you he's starving. The irony behind the scenes of issues like this is almost as scary as the actual evidence that's available.

    Sigh
     
  2. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    See thats my problem though... Those were already pretty much my views before this all... lol

    I think more then anything its the whole shit/pot getting off issue... lol

    edit;

    after reading that I thought I should point out I meant as in "shit or get off the pot" lol
     
  3. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Tom.. another thing you may want to look into.. don't really know your complete lifestyle.. but start lowing the amount of BPA your body takes in... and other carcinogenic items that may be in your everyday life.. 60% of the average persons BPA levels come from canned goods
     
  4. ChronicTom

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    I responded to this in my journal.
     
  5. KevinH

    KevinH Just Floating Here

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    http://www.bpru.org/cancer-studies/

    Johns Hopkins University

    "CANCER STUDY
    We are seeking volunteers with a diagnosis of cancer to participate in a scientific study of states of consciousness brought about by psilocybin, and their impact on psychological distress and spirituality.

    The study is conducted in a comfortable and supportive setting, Volunteers enrolled in the study will receive careful preparation and two sessions in which they will receive psilocybin. Structured and professional guidance will be provided during the session and afterwards to facilitate integration of the experiences.

    After each session, questionnaires and interviews will be used to assess the effects of the psilocybin on consciousness, mood, and behavior."
     
  6. ChronicTom

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    Not psilocybin, not asperagus juice, not meditation... Oil, made from weed...
     
  7. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    how about tinfoil hats?
     
  8. ChronicTom

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    Only if they are covered in hemp oil and shoved up someone's ass...
     
  9. jo_k_er_man

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    you could always try and let us know
     
  10. deleted

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    Only the rich and well armed have cannabis in Pennsylvania .. Im not rich so.. dont come a knocking..
     
  11. ChronicTom

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    The oil, yes... the tinfoil hat, analy inserted, is for a different type of disease altogether....
     
  12. jo_k_er_man

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    So not to get off track.. but is it a topic of "no i will not entertain the idea of mushroom theropy" or just a stay on subject kinda thing.. have you looking into it at all?
     
  13. ChronicTom

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    I'm looking into everything, this thread is about the oil.

    It is most likely that this is the way I will go (assuming I can get that much weed).

    I could list of many of what would be considered my standard reasons for doing so... But the one that sticks in my mind the most, is that if it is true, I want those I care about, to KNOW it, rather then wonder, in case they are in the same position later on.

    If I do it and it works, they can avoid the whole conventional treatment options with a lot less worry.

    If it doesn't.... well, that would be good for them to know too..
     
  14. jo_k_er_man

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  15. puffed up in my ford

    puffed up in my ford Senior Member

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    sorry to hear this tom.i hope it all works out for you :2thumbsup:


    ive seen 2 people die from cancer.my ex's mother and grandmother.didnt really know the grandmother but knew her mom well.she went through hell with the chemo.she looked like she was dead but couldnt find a hole to lay in.

    i hope this works for you so you dont have to go through that hell
     
  16. ChronicTom

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    I'm still watching videos and reading stuff... this one I just had to share even though it's not about cancer, although it is brought up...

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXg1huWisKI
     
  17. ChronicTom

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    Okay... on the matter of what to use to make the oil, Rick has this to say on his site;

    On the matter of using butane for BHO... I wonder if the resulting oil, which is awesome for getting stoned, may not be somehow different then the oil that is produced using the naphtha. He states;

    Which seems to be a fair point, however, it should be pointed out that if you just heat the oil afterwards to 150 degrees for 15 minutes or so, you will have the same effect, at least based on this;

    http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3037.html

    If you are using it for smoking, it doesn't matter as this happens when it burns apparently.

    But, as most people who have used the oil based on Rick, have used naphtha as that is what he suggests, and that is the oil that worked for them, to me it would seem to be a bit silly to change anything from what is known (or thought to be known) to work.

    However... lol

    Having said that, I also came across this;

    and the mind spins some more... lol
     
  18. ChronicTom

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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20053780

    Now, according to this, it would be better to not decarboxylate the weed or oil, as it the balance that is in the plant naturally works in a synergistic effect to kill brain cancer cells...

     
  19. skip

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    Cannabis was one of the first "traditional medicines". Big Pharma produces NOTHING "traditional". Traditional = natural substances used before industrial age.
     
  20. ChronicTom

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    I don't think there is any better argument against big pharm being against things like this then the simple facts.

    For one of them to market a product, they would have to spend millions (100 million according to one place) to get it approved for sale, at which point every other company could produce the same thing as it is plant based and non patentable.

    That carries more weight in my mind then almost any other consideration when I am comparing conventional to hemp. Even if it is 100% proved that cannabis does kill cancer cells, none of the big pharm would spend that money to provide it as it isn't in their best corporate interests...



    (note I did not say cures cancer, as that subject is debatable in terms that it isn't really something that can be 'cured' as somoene else stated around here...)
     
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