Capitalism: What do you think?

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  1. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    It's amazing how people blame capitalism for the huge difference between rich and poor.
    Capitalism allows people to get rich, without it... there would be no difference.......

    EVERYONE would just be POOR.

    Any other political system will have the same difference... shit... show me a political system which is not capitalist that had a large middle class.
     
  2. shaman_stig

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    but without money there would be no love and desire for it so my original piont stands.
     
  3. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    How would you solve world famine without money?
     
  4. shaman_stig

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    without money would there be world famine i think not without money the population of the world would have stopped growing when it reached an amount the land could support hunter gathering would be the way of life and if you look at hunter gatherers today even in harsh enviroments they get enough food
     
  5. Piney

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    Its not about re-distributing existing wealth, its about creating new wealth.


    Could complete Self-Actualization be possible without Capitalism ?

    People need incentives to perform at thier best.
     
  6. Chris_mate

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    I am a simple guy, who leads a comfortable life... I acheive this by having some money. I want to continue to live a comfortable and happy life, meaning I need money for that... summing it up I like money, and to reach my goals I need it and want to have a lot more, so I am Capitalist and ok with who is not, in my view fewer capitalists means fewer people to compete with me. I may sound very selfish but it´s a very liberal and correct way of thinking, in my opinion of corse.
     
  7. lai pantha

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    Like everything else there has to be a balance. You can work to improve your finances and still contribute to society. Unfortunately, America has become very unbalanced with people wanting to amass wealth and ignore their neighbors. I would suspect that other countries have the same issues.

    So for me the question is how to acheive this balance. It can't be mandated by law. But the laws do promote big business to only think of themselves. I have to strive to find my balance by not feeling guilty for succeeding, but rejoicing for being able to help others. Another way for me to balance myself is to support companies that do the same.

    There will always be views from one side to the other. We must find ways to learn from one another.
     
  8. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Without money there would be no world famine?..Are you serious? You can't be so simplistic as to say that money is the problem: it's far deeper, and more serious, than that.

    You sound like you want to turn us into primitive people.

    Money makes the world, and time, go around. Without it everything would stop.
     
  9. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    If I were doing well, I'd support it, but since I'm not, I'm a SOCIALIST :D
     
  10. shaman_stig

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    yeah i would prefer to turn us into a primative people been civalised bought about war socail class it has caused us to wreck the enviroment in my opinion we should have never come down from the trees money doesnt make the world go round at all money causes problems when a mugger holds a kniffe to your throat hes asking for your money and things he can sell to make money when company's chop down the rain forest to make way for farm land to breed cheap beef its to make money when company's take there business to third world country's so they can pay there workers 12p an hour its to make money. money is not a nesesaty (cant spell that but nah mind) food water shelter company are and you dont need money for them other wise we would have never reached this civalesed world
     
  11. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    ...When you said "i would prefer to turn us into a primative people", I lost all hope of rationality in you. Oh, and by the way, war is a necessity to humans. It comes naturally in humans as it comes naturally in animals. War is probably THE most primitive of thimgs.
     
  12. BraveSirRubin

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    I disagree with the war statement. It might be a very primitive thing, but that does not excuse it. With all the new technology and so called human development we should be able to get past the idea of war. Animals may fight over survival issues, such as territory, food, or a mate... while humans fight over the most ideological of issues... that is not primitive war, that is our so called human development fucking us over.

    Saying that, I would love to see humanity stop developing right now and just sit on it, or at least develope in a non-destructive form... but ofcourse, that will not happen.
     
  13. shaman_stig

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    how is war a necessity if war is a necessity why dont we die if we dont have and do die when it breaks out and turinig us back to primative people in my eyes makes sense there are still culters out there we would class as primative and they live there lives happily without war and with out stress to me it makes sense
     
  14. L.A.Matthews

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    Like I said, war is as natural to humans as it is to animals. For centuries there has been wars over survival issues, territory, personal aspects. Territory is, more often than not, the major aspect of it, and has been for years. War is probably one of the only animal instinct humans have kept since evolving.

    But I didn't for a minute condone war, nor excuse it. I believe it's actually a flaw in our own human nature.
     
  15. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    I thought sex was?


    I think we should get back to bartering and trading.....no cash or coins, just stuff. A big old swap meet...................
     
  16. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Okay, war AND sex...Happy now, Jen?:tongue:
     
  17. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Capitalism sucks! SOCIALISM!!! It's so easy to implement, don't trust the fake one's around the world.
     
  18. Piney

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    Chimpanzeees are at war, its normal for them.
     
  19. Any Color You Like

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    Capitalism has some advantages, but mainly I think there is to much stress put on the shoulders of the workers. We are trained to perform at 110% of our capacity, always to bring more money. Maximum productivity, Taylorism, that, I don't like! You can't live slow in a capitalist system, that, I don't like!
     
  20. crud3w4re

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