Cash for clunkers disaster for dealers

I found some data:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Regulation/wm2579.cfm

But I am still not sure how any of this addresses our computers being taken over. I think pretty much FISA which passed with out much fanfare really took care of that not selling cars.

 

No it's not.
And i don't believe mileage is a criteria for trading in .

Did you "research" it or just assumed?

And you can buy any of those parts at a parts store.

Of course i think you see want you want to see.
Besides you're driving a dinosaur.

If I had made the claim, you know i would have, but i didn't you did.I don't think having me back up your claims is how it works, you're either too lazy to be bothered or don't mind being wrong, alot.

 

What does that have to do with how wrong the story was?
Or do you still believe it has been canceled?
This story broke as they were voting on it.
Why would i bother looking at the time stamp when i already knew the story to be false?

 

Because that isn't the topic of this thread,first clue.



There is a thread explaining it all.
Of course you too fell for it, geeez you peeps................

 

it was breaking news jerk wad.i posted it 20 minutes after it hit the wire,as i said,there were no other stories. i dont sit and wait for a week for more accurate stories to come up on breaking news, rarely are all the facts clear on a breaking story,thats why they call it breaking ..

some of us are actually on top of things and dont notice the headlines the next day in the newspaper.or come along a week after a post to point out that now a week later things are clearer on the subject.. well duh.. thank you captain obvious.. you must be so proud of your insight..

if you can find a more accurate article with a time stamp earlier than that please post it. otherwise STFU..

also,has the senate approved the funds for its continuation yet?? i havent saw where they have.. if they havent,well then,, technically its still "canceled", "on hold" whatever you wanna call it for the moment..

 

Actually my rig has more than 300,000 miles on it. I think the cut off is 250 thousand. Besides I can't afford payments for a new vehicle. And she get's over 20 miles to gallon the way I drive her. So not sure what vehicle could replace her.

My other vehicle which hasn't been driven or registered for five years is a 1984 Susuki SJ 410. You can't buy parts for her in the parts houses. And she get's way more than 20 miles to the gallon. But I could only afford to register one vehicle under my current economic circumstances. And I opted to register my Ford. She can haul more.

I might be driving a dinosaur but she is paid for. She's not real pretty but she's handles what I ask of her.

 

I've already posted the criteria for trade ins, there is no "mileage" restriction, unless of course you have some info you would like to share,until then we take your word for it

Well say that then instead of "my vehicle doesn't qualify,when it does.

How many miles to the quart of oil, tho?

Many could replace it, they "rangers" were JUNK new.

 

Breaking News, so was Cash for Clunkers and Your Computer and Obama admits government will take over Health Care both Quick but Wrong.

Maybe you should.
I'll take Accurate over Quick as would most people.

 

I think cash for clunkers is a disaster, but definately not for the reasons the OP stated.

I don't think having too much business for your own good qualifies as a "disaster". Both of those links are pretty weak arguments too.

 

yeah it sounded like a sketchy deal

 

It will be far worse than this

 

yawn.. do you feel like more of a man now that you came in a week later to point out a breaking story didnt have its facts straight?

it really must be a sad life you live to feel the need to push this as far as you have..

i would like to say in the future i will wait till all the facts on a breaking news story were clear before posting just to suit you but that would be a lie.

the fact is i could care less what a obviously miserable person like yourself thinks..

you be sure and try to have a nice day. im sure you must be pumped up and feeling victorious over pointing out that the facts on a story are now clearer a week later,but rest assured the rest of us are musing at how pathetic your nit picking is..

 

It is partially a disaster because those of us who do not need a new car are footing the bill for others to get one

Imagine that

GM becomes government motors and everybody gets a discount on their new car

Bet GM dealers didn't have as many problems with rebates as some of the rest of them did

 

Maybe I didn't notice it until now,i very rarely read your post, with good reason. I wasn't aware there was a time limit on responding to threads.Next time i'll check for expiration dates.
I thought it was funny how you always get it wrong, sue me.

Even funnier how you like to play the innocent messenger ,with your over use of "" & "" just in case.

LMAO coming from you "one of the biggest pushers of conspiracy/bullshit " on these forums, ha fucking ha.

Again, you have it backwards.

Talking to the mirror?

The lengths you go thru to weasel out of something can only be out done by Rat,too funny.
If you only put half as much time into presenting facts as you do this song and dance everything would be fine, you love the attention good or bad.
btw, i wasn't "nit picking" your post i said the whole thing was wrong.

Wow, you really consider yourself on top of things?

Your link only proves this, right? "How on top of things you are"


And don't try to get e-thug with me, you wouldn't say it to my face so don't pretend you can.

 

Exactly! I couldn't agree more.

The OP is like "Omg big business is too tired of using a little ink to earn easy $$$.. This is obviously a failure"

We all love to hate the government, but at least get a good reason to.

America supposed to be a Capitalist nation yet we do everything to prove ourselves otherwise. And what really bothers me is that its not like Dictorial takeover or official change of policy. They're craftily undermining the very base of our society while the sheeple still think that we're a good ol' Democratic Republic / Capitalist nation.

There is no line that they can't cross when we take on this mentality. "Hey, I think it's time we give rebates on computers. Or how about Ipods so they can download our official gvt. podcasts!!"

We no longer play the game of economics. It's simply about the power to control and manipulate, to make people dependent.

 

But most of the new vehicles purchased are Fords.

 

Gardener, you and I don't agree very often, but I agree with you on this one. What about the people who are too poor to purchase a new car even with the $4500 rebate? What about the used car dealers that are having problems because the supply of cars is dropping because we are junking these "clunkers" some of which are in decent condition? Like a 2001 Honda Passport qualifies. Hondas run forever What about people that get in car accidents and can't afford brand new parts from the factory, and normally would buy used parts from a junk yard, and now are going to have trouble finding parts because all these "clunkers" with usable parts are being destroyed? What about the people would be able to buy a new car if they could get the rebate but are currently driving an old Corolla or something that gets good gas mileage, but is held together with duct tape and super glue and is always in the shop for something. There are so many problems with this program, it's just crazy.

 

The OP, me, thinks this thing is a disaster for numerous reasons. Sorry, its been a while since I've been on here. It's been a number of weeks since anyone else has even posted. I just don't have enough time.

Anyways, like I was saying there are a number of reasons why this is a disaster.

This is a very good argument as to why CARS is a disaster. It's a government takeover of our economy. I just thought this reason went without saying. I wasn't trying to make this point.

Then you have the problems that I was talking about with gardener in the above post, no need to repeat.

What I meant in the OP is that some dealers are out a bundle of money, waiting for their rebate. They have to fill out 20 pages of paper work on each deal. (That's not "a little ink". Some dealerships quit early just so they would be sure to have time to fill out all the paperwork.) And like I said in the OP, there may not have been a single rebate processed in the state of Minnesota when I originally started this thread. Hamilton Nissan in Hagerstown MD had been reimbursed for only 4 of 70 claims filed since july, as of August 17

http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=228853&format=html

Is this a weak argument? I'm no bidness man. I guess a car dealership keeps a fair amount of cash in the bank. But no matter what your bidness, when you are waiting for 66 X $4500 = $297,000 your accounting is surely all screwed up.

The article in the link above also talks about how some used dealers in the area of Hagerstown don't have the supply they normally would, and are losing business.

I looked at the cash for clunkers eligible vehicles on edmunds.com

http://www.edmunds.com/cash-for-clunkers/eligible-vehicles.html

You know a 2004 Dodge Dakota qualifies? Sure they don't get good gas mileage, but that's only 5 years old?!?!?! What about all the working men that need a truck that would love to have one of those?? A 2002 Chevy S-10 qualifies also. And are you gonna tell me that a 2000 Audi A6 is a clunker?

Sorry, y'all I get pissed off when I start discussing Obama's failures.

 

I don't really get the whole "if government can't do cash for clunkers (a one-off program thrown together over a few months) they can't do healthcare"!

Is Social Security a catastrophe? Are public health care systems - which nearly every country in the world has - apocalyptic failures? And the US government already does healthcare, its called Medicaid and Medicare. Public health expenditures in the US are huge, almost half of all health care is publicly funded.

None of the people who are now running around fearmongering about public health care have been calling for the elimination of Medicare and Medicaid - why not?

 

Someone's gonna have to pry my 1989 Toyota Corolla (inherited when my Mom died, GRHS) out of my cold dead hands. And no other way. The thing practically runs on love.