Causes Of Homosexuality.

DES was banned in 1971 and studies showed that homosexuality was more prevalent in men who were in utero and were exposed while women were more heterosexual who were exposed.

Which makes sense due to the fact that is was an artificial estrogen hormone.

It was given to prevent miscarriage but then later determined that it could pose a reproductive health issue to the women who received it and also didn’t work as well as intended, so it was banned.

Just don’t want people to think it’s still being used.

 

Well, let's put it a different way. Consider pot smoking. What if all your friends were doing it? There they are with a partner or lover. Or what if it wasn't even your friends, it was just 'cool people' or for the rest of us, celebrities?

Even if it weren't celebrities in their real lives, you can have a social experiment about this! Try it!

And I think what you'll find is a definitive result. If you don't want that result but want the science behind it use different variables.

Make a movie about any kind of peer-oriented influence. I remember the movie "Kids" or "Requiem for a Dream".

For my part, the door was already open! The party never stopped, like a hamster on a wheel! My debauchery knew no limits! And then I saw something I thought looked cool.

Curiosity wasn't the thing. This was intelligent! It was more emotionally honest! I had been unsuccessful in my relationships. And I thought I wasn't attractive. It made sense. We would be (I never endeavored to be in a partnership) more attuned by our very nature!

And I thought about lots of things that made it a compatible choice for me emotionally. What wasn't compatible?

Well, it was out of the question at home. Also, I wasn't particularly attractive and did not fit the look as it were, particularly not for my part of California. And there weren't potential partners that I was aware of which I now count as a blessing since that would have sealed the deal.

At some point with all the pros and cons in front of me I decided. I would not live that life. For me it was a choice. Less so for someone more attractive. Its gravity is potent. They would get stuck like the tar pits of La Brea in Los Angeles.



It's difficult to conceive of this as anything other than treachery, but I'm sure love was the real draw. It's sad to remember that it wasn't available at that time.

But after all the awkwardness in the world was passed, I feel like I achieved something by making it out alive.

There are people in my life who enjoy their lives with same-sex relationships, but I steer clear; for me it's not a preference.

 

Once upon a time homosexuality was considered a mental illness. Does anyone still believe this?

 

Maybe some people still think it's an illness that needs to be treated/cured but, as I recall, homosexuality got taken off the official mental illness list in 1973 and along with the removal of masturbation from that list. I'm not sure how you cure someone of something when there's actually nothing wrong with them. I recently saw on Facebook where someone said that the cure for homosexuality is Jesus...

 

I assume it's the same mechanism that "causes" heterosexuality

 

Social norms and morality causes heterosexuality. It has been postulated that before we begin to receive the social conditioning that winds up defining our sexuality, we... have no assigned sexuality and, of course, religion pretty much infers that if you're not heterosexual, you will die and go to hell and social conditioning takes this and runs with it. It's what causes a major conflict in a lot of men and women who, as conditioned, are totally heterosexual until something comes along to break the conditioning - and it could be anything and as I've learned being with and talking to both male and female bisexuals and across differing age demographics.

I used to say that a guy doesn't wake up one more and decide that today's a good day to suck a dick... until I met a guy who was baffled because that was what was on his mind when he woke up that day and he met me. I have postulated that those who say that they were born this way actually resist or shrug off the conditioning or, it goes in one ear and right out the other and I've met many a man and woman who has said that they knew they were bisexual - that they that they liked both boys and girls and, interestingly, they were "immune" to the conflict that fucks so many people up - but they found that they weren't immune to the stigma of not being heterosexual.

It's pretty fucking sad and painful to watch someone going through this conflict because their bodies and a particular part of their brain is telling them one thing and there's another part of their brain screaming at them to not even think about doing something that's not heterosexual. The conditioning had tended to break down over time or as men and women find out that homosexuality, in particular, isn't the horrific evil we've been taught it is; those who watch the various flavors of porn can be exposed to same-sex interactions and, wait, hold up a sec - if this is such a horrible thing to do, why does it look exciting and why is it exciting me? It may or may not be enough to break the conditioning and the habitual behavior that's associated with heterosexuality but, again, there's really no telling what will break the conditioning or when it gets broken.

What I had wanted to know - and a few minutes after my first experience with a guy - was how something that everyone says is so bad could feel so good. I would eventually be able to answer the question: It feels good because it's supposed to feel good and sex is supposed to feel good but this level of thinking, to me, didn't account for my being bisexual and the message that sex is between a man and a woman who love each other and are in a relationship was, indeed, confusing because having sex with a girl felt wonderful... but so did having sex with a boy and I would be able to figure out that we are essentially lied to about sex and who we can have it with and as opposed to who we're supposed to only have sex with.

Heterosexuality, as I would learn, was only one way to be sexual - and that included going about the "holy trinity" of finding love, sex, and relationships. If you're a guy and you're not supposed to have any such feelings for another guy, um, why do I have those feelings anyway? The whole thing gets very deep into whether or not sexuality is about nature, nurturing or, as I've learned, environmental - being in the right place at the right time and with the right person. The ultimate clusterfuck for people is that we are, in 2024, still teaching and preaching that heterosexuality is the only way to be when life in the real world tell an entirely different story...

 

Uh, I am confused. Is there really a "cause" of homosexuality? I think its just a matter of life. And then there are all of the life 'causes' between homo and hetero.

Get over it. Humans have different proclivities...they arent 'choices'.

 

Because of what we believe we also believe that there has to be a reason for or cause of homosexuality and thanks to religion, we have been so mindfucked that it's difficult for the world to accept that homosexuality is just as much a part of nature as anything else is... except maybe heterosexuality as some social experts are of a mind that heterosexuality is unnatural for humans (and so is being monogamous). When you're not all that heterosexual - or not heterosexual at all - it's easy to see how wrong religion and our morality that's based upon that religion is. Homosexuality just is; bisexuality just is as well; heterosexuality is not the only way to go about love, sex, and relationships and as I would one day say - after having sex with my third male friend of the day - "It can't be that bad because there's a lot of people who aren't straight..."

And as far as choices go - and despite what a lot of people say and think - there are choices in this. You can choose to ignore your thoughts and feelings (including peer pressure) and do things the way you've been told to do them, or you can choose to act on those thoughts and feelings (and hope you don't get caught with your dick in some guy's mouth or his dick in your ass); the only thing you have no choice in is having those thoughts and feelings in the first place. Homoesexuality continues to baffle science to the point where they're looking for a gay gene to explain why someone winds up being homosexual - instead of accepting that it is, in fact, a part of human nature.

 

Two pages in and no mention of domineering mother.... that's one explanation that was out there

 

The domineering mother is classic; fathers get pissed with mothers for babying their son or, yeah, being uber-dominating but the dads usually lose that argument and what's even funnier is that once the boy comes out as being gay - or is discovered being gay - it's the mother who pulls her hair out and wonder what his father did wrong to make the boy turn out this way. I've seen this one personally a few times and there's nothing pretty about it. Or the spiteful mother who decides to feminize her male child because he's not the daughter she wanted. Fathers don't get off the hook all that much either by being too distant or being a major hard-ass by forcing an unwilling male child to do "manly" things like play football or some other sport he sees as being manly.

Our society is quick to vilify homosexuality while not wanting to lay the blame on those parents who push their children into homosexuality and other so-called deviant behaviors. And if they do find reason to blame parents, it's to admonish them by not preaching and teaching religion to those children to keep them from straying into perversion and other such bullshit. I grew up with a few preacher kids who were "freaks in the sheets" and in every way imaginable and quite unbeknownst to their parents who were sure that they'd put the fear of God into their offspring and offspring who would never do something like that and disobey them and the Lord and I've seen those parents get utterly shattered to find out that they were wrong about that - and had been for a very long time.

It's said that the tighter you try to hold onto something, the easier it is to slip from your grip and there are a lot of parents who drove their children into the arm of homosexuality...

 

I love the last part here. Please ask me all about my sexuality, how I found my sexuality, what I like and dislike, what kinds of sex I like and with whom. Ask me if I masturbate and how often.

Ask me and I’ll gladly answer, just be respectful please!

 

That's ridiculous.

 

Yet it remains to be a truth just the same, doesn't it? We tend to beat our heads against the wall trying to figure out why there are people who aren't straight, but no one questions why someone is straight but, yeah, I did and I traced it back to the social conditioning we all receive when we're old enough to begin to understand it and that has always included who you can have sex with and who you can't and as a part of that "right and wrong" stuff we get plied with as well. It doesn't always work the way it's expected to; some people do what they're told and are heterosexual throughout the entirety of their life and... some people ain't having any of that and they are "the thing" that they're not supposed to be - homo- or bisexual (the perverted heathens who need Jesus in their lives!)

You really have to ask yourself why things work the way they do and if you go looking for the answers, you'll find them and beginning with asking why homosexuality is so evil when there are more homosexuals running around than you can shake a stick at? What makes homosexuality a mortal sin and very major taboo... but back in those early days, a man could - and was supposed to - have many wives and something that, according to Christianity, is forbidden and, well, you probably know all of this and like I do... because we were all programmed to know this and the message remains: Be homosexual and die because of it.

Do you still think it's ridiculous? Maybe you do but our social norms and morality continue to demand that we be heterosexual and, you bet your ass, a lot of us still ain't having any of that. You don't have to believe me...

 

Count me in as being the “wrong” thing as listed above for being a total lifelong homosexual and proud of it! I know for a fact that Jesus loves me as I am and that he brought my husband who is very spiritual and I together. Now explain that one! LOL

 

We have forever believed that homosexuality is wrong - but it continues to grab and hold our attention, doesn't it? Why and how someone becomes homosexual is... how they got to be homosexual and, yes, if you wanna know why a homosexual is a homosexual, ask them - they just might answer you if you ask them nicely enough; otherwise, don't you have something better to do than to be all up in someone else's very personal business? At the end of some day, it doesn't matter what causes homosexuality because the real answer is lost to time or wipe from the record and definitely vilified. Homosexuality, obviously, is real and homosexuals go about their lives looking for the same thing straight people look for in life: Love, sex, and relationships - and those three things are not mutually inclusive and like we seem to believe they are.

@JmSwt, there's nothing to explain; you were looking for love, went through some trials and tribulations to find it and you found it and you're happy.

 

That's absurd. I'm straight despite conditoning to the contrary.

 

The conditioning isn't "to the contrary;" it is what it has always been and we all get it and it includes the mandate to be heterosexual and nothing other than that. So... you're straight and the funny thing about it is that you believe it was your idea to be straight and it really wasn't - you're straight because you were told to be straight and you just agreed to it.

Like I said, you don't have to believe me; I just learned this as I went looking for why people are and can be something other than heterosexual.

 

The main cause of sexuality is that it feels great.

 

On HF there are a lot of them, probably the majority of the men!

 

Thank goodness it’s not!