I've got a photo of me in a Nike tracksuit and baseball cap somewhere ... I was working undercover at the time
not all 'chavs' are antisocial abusive people, they have personalities too. just because they dress the same doesn't mean they are evil clones trying to pollute the world with under age drinkers and that lot. don't put them in a box, this just gives them the right to insult 'our kind' as it were?
i'm with lozi...it's unfair to bunch them up like that. the site has some funny photos, hell, i've seen this car in falmouth but the site used to have shit about travelers on there, and in my view was racist. It's now taken it off (though some of this racist stigma hangs about in their forums), but still the assumption that they are "Britains peasant underclass" pisses me off
the word "chav" is just grouping people...a term that applies to people who ear trackies and nike etc. your right not all chavs are mindless fucking cunts that set out to destroy anyone and everyone that refuses to pay 130 quid for a pair of trainers, or doesnt wear a piece of nike clothing everyday. they dont all throw rocks/stones at these "different" people. they dont all mug/rob/stab and steal cars. not of all of the chavs walk into a random school and start stabbing people with bottles and getting something like 100 people stamping on somebodies HEAD nearly killing him (and luaghing while doing it) because that person didnt give them his ball. it just depends where you live. where i live and used to go to school this all happened, some, almost daily. so please lets not even try and defend chavs, because i know theres good and bad in everybody but seeing all that has sort of taught me to be weary of all who are dressed headto toe in nike! never trust ANYONE that wears mckenzie, they are the devil in disguise!!!
but is isnt this whole sweeping generalisation like saying all goths drink blood?. all punks are vandals?. all people who go clubbing must do pills? all people under 20 with chids have fucked lots of people?all christians want to kill homosexuals? every one who smokes weed are unemployable drug fiends?or even all germans are nazi's? i dont think it works that way. although i may be wrong??
no thats what i mean...i understand that, but because ive lived around it for so long thats how i feel...i KNOW its wrong to put people in groups like that...but...oh the things ive seen...oh the horror lol
I agree Kier, that's why I approached this thread with trepidation. The "Britains peasant underclass" pisses me off too, Chav seems to have become an acceptable prejudice these days... laughing at the pictures is one thing but I agree the premise behind the site is light hearted in one way but also has the possibility of creating divides
British society has always been based on division... I grew up in the peasant underclass of the 70s/80s... my dad was unemployed for a significant proportion of my teenage years so I grew up in relative poverty... until we solve this issue, there will always be an underclass... be they chavs or whatever... In some way, I'm glad to see them unifying in some kind of way... and pushing that culture right back in our faces... it stops this country feeling quite so smug because it is clear that there is still a significant proportion of society who are still being failed by the institutions of our nation... And some of us may sneer at them... because it merely emphasizes our sense of superiority... ha... we laugh at these chavscum... because we are higher than them in the heirarchy of society... The clothes may change but the attitudes will always remain the same unless something is done to change our society... Fly...
"I'm glad to see them unifying in some kind of way" Hmm, How can you tell from those pictures if the people were poor or not?... They just looked like they were copying most pop / rap stars looks off the TV to me. I don't think it's "them" unifying, It seems to be a fashion to me, like any other... say hippy for example. They drive certain cars, wear certain brands and act a certain way... just seems like another fashion to me.
No... you're right... I can't make that statement about chavs as a broad culture... but I can say it about the ones that I know and teach... and for them, it is like a uniform... And that repeats many social movements of the past which have been so closely linked with class... right back to the teds... it is a fuck you to a society that writes them off... it is the tribal instict that manifests itself in the clothes you wear, the music you listen to, and the behaviour that you display... Fly...
