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Discussion in 'Communism' started by HikerHauk, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. Nimrod's Apprentice

    Nimrod's Apprentice Member

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    I vouch forced abortion.

    Overpopulation, don't help relations
    humans,plants, animals, or frustrations
     
  2. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    You'd be singing a different tune if it were YOUR BODY being invaded.

    I digress...how about this for population control...castrate men.
     
  3. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    How long will it be before China becomes communist?
     
  4. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    depends when the working class get the guns
     
  5. r33f3r_m4dn3ss

    r33f3r_m4dn3ss Member

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    um, China is Communist, but not in the definition you seek. You can't have pure Communism when you have to control millions of people. They also have religion as well as a huge industry, so stop beleiving Communism works in a grand scale, because it doesn't. The only way it works in America is with the Amish, so go join them if you love Communism so much, or go live in a tent with a bunch of unshaven hippies, thats real Communism.

    Tell me, why has Communism never sprouted anywhere in harmony? The only way it works is on paper. There are too many factors involved that would break down the very basis of Communists ideals, human nature being one of them. The only way Communism would work nowadays is if either

    A) There was a higher power aka religious motive behind the Communist regime, but with all religion today being bullshit I don't see that happening unless we get a sign from God or aliens

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    B) After a massive destruction destroying all infrastructure on a mass scale. The people would then band together in a communist way to benefit each other. Then eventually someone would get greedy and someone would get killed and everything would get fucked up. Like I said, it only works on a tiny scale when few people are easily controlled.

    This "Communism" you speak of will never happen. If it does, it won't be called Communism, because the problems would be weeded out and grant it a different name, like Neosocial-Capitalism or something ridiculous.

    Get off the Communist bandwagon. Or move to Cuba.
     
  6. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    I doubt you know anything about human nature. China is capitalist, incase you haven't noticed. Communism will work, and I doubt you know what it is either. All that has to happen is people need to take control of the means of production, which will reverse much of the problems caused by Capitalism.

    Your probably just putting hope in the current system because they represent order and authority. Did you run to the teachers and care takers when you were little and other kids messed with you? Have you put any serious thought into Communism, meaning have you read the manifesto? Do you understand dialectics? I doubt it, so don't go saying communism wont work because you don't think it will and you somehow know the truth of human nature. I think your a pessimist.
     
  7. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    I wish I was 16 and idealic again.

    *internets-sighs*
     
  8. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    problem with whats already tried is the centralization of power... i think so much has to be given out to local areas, with a bare minimal central government... makes it all far less suseptable to corruption
     
  9. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    Communism is BAD for the ruling class. You know this.
     
  10. r33f3r_m4dn3ss

    r33f3r_m4dn3ss Member

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    First off, who the fuck do you think you are. You think you know me? You think because I don't agree with your little Opposite Boy ideals, the kid in class who's different and wiser because he read some stupid fucking book? You've never met me, and if you ever did you'd realize that talking shit over bullshit like this makes faces turn different shades of blue if you catch my drift. I honestly can't beleive you'd think because I don't agree with your faggy communist ideas that I was picked on in school. lol so ridiculous.

    Anyways...

    Maybe you should wait to hear me say that I support the current system, and maybe you should realize reading the manifesto is as dead as the person who wrote it. China has and will always be capitalist, I know this. Why the fuck do you think everything you see is made in China? Hmm, well maybe because Communist countries depend on other people to buy the goods they make, not the people in the society. What system do you mean by support and order? Our economic system? Political system? Educational system? Seeing as how all these are different branches of this larger system called the United States of America, we can't have this discussion because comparing two completely different infrastructures would take forever, as well as describing every form of logistics, which I think is handled very well by our current system. TOf course China is Communist, it's how they're economy works, and of course they need to be Capitalist, because how else would you support such a large mass of people otherwise? Something needs to be bought and sold, and they cant sell shit to each other and get compete with the rest of the world. The only reason you probably support Communism is because you want to be this intellectual who thinks hes better than everyone else. You're 16, what makes you such an expert on what would work and what wouldn't? BECAUSE YOU READ A FUCKING BOOK? Seriously. I would love to hear you explanation in a short summary of your picture perfect Communist society in this day and age. Would there be religion? Where would people live? What would you use as a monatary system? Where does profit come from to give people a comfortable life? How do you make law? All these need to be answered before I will agree Communism will work. I want to hear it from you, if you are so high and mighty on this Communism bullshit.

    Now, I will agree Communism would work, but only if...

    A)There was some catastrophic event that destroyed a majority of our economic infrastructure.

    B)A new country was formed after some form of revolution, hopefully not too much bloodshed. Or if people migrated into the wilderness and lived off the land or something like that.

    You will never see Communism working as a government on a large scale. If you think for some reason a country can just become Communist, you're wrong. It would not be socialism due to the fact that so many business rely on Capitalism and Supply and Demand. Now, if there were some sort of benefit from being Communist, like creating some ridiculous new form of technology that required a work force of the thousands to complete it, then maybe. Communism will only work on a small scale, because there is too much corruption otherwise in this day and age because every man wants to get ahead and have that much less to do and get that much more.

    I don't even know why im arguing with a 16 year old over this, look at how many other things theyre are besides Communism before you set your mind to such a ridiculous notion. Oh, and it would help if your balls dropped too.
     
  11. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    its a proven fact that socialism in one country fails... One of the only things i agree with stalin on
     
  12. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    I <3 this thread.
     
  13. Nimrod's Apprentice

    Nimrod's Apprentice Member

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    Anti-socialism man !!!!

    METAL!!! YEA DAWG SLIPKNOT! ANTI-SOCIAL PARTIES SUCK DUDE!!!!
     
  14. r33f3r_m4dn3ss

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    you had to quote my entire post for that puny statement?
     
  15. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    it happened. but it was the students who set soilders on fire first. the west just found another excuse.

    P.S. CCP is among the best political parties on earth, though sometimes they cheat. this is based on fact, not rumor.
     
  16. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    It's not a practical goal.
     
  17. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    one thing can be sure, the capitalist class never will
     
  18. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    come to China and live for a year
     
  19. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    im tired of this. i know there're many declare that they live in a "free state". but r u free?
    think about this: R U FREE?

    with all of your prejudices, with your angry tone, i doubt it
     
  20. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    Ok, wow. You've officially flipped your lid.

    You go on and keep defending the assholes in the Chinese government, the rest of us in the sane Earth realm will continue to fight against them.
     

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