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I don't really see anything wrong with having students write a short answer or an essay and share and discuss with the class. The most memorable classes I've ever taken involved a lot of class discussion.

students should still have to take individual tests, and I do agree they should be short answer or essay. I had very few classes throughout school that did not give multiple choice tests, and these were the only classes I ever had to truly study for. Multiple choice is way too easy, discourages critical thinking, and encourages memorization.

Teachers' salary is one reason multiple choice tests are so appealing to teachers. When a teacher makes 25k a year they aren't likely to be motivated to spend a lot of time outside of school grading tests.

 

Small class, intimate instruction. In prioritizing our investments it is important to note that time is our most precious commodity, far exceeding the arrival of that paycheck.

 

Creepers, Nostradamus reincarnated.

Shouldn't try. If you know something pass it on is what I mean.

I hear you.

I mean why grade at all. Is our object for students to get good grades? Some students strive to because that is the way we have constructed the incentive. A good teachers success is measured in how his students no longer need him. If he or she, (the educator,) is still needed, keep at it..

 

sorry for your troubles fin. r.i.p.

 

I don't see why you couldn't have one on one teaching, as well as group work.

 

Thank you.

 

Me neither. I am a yoga, (joining,) teacher and have never taken more than one student at a time. I spread my other talents more broadly.

 

There is definitely something to be said for communal, teamwork type endeavors but once it becomes institutionalized it's a problem. In college, I remember many times having semester long group projects with hot girls or dudes with a lot of drugs on hand that literally contributed nothing to the project. But at the time I didn't care because they were fun to party with during and after 'group meetings'. But even though nobody in our group graded them badly (we had to anonymously grade each other) the professor could tell they didn't do shit and they almost always got hit with lower grades for the course.

That's just the way certain elements of higher education are. But what you are advocating reeks of socialism/communism to me. It's really not my problem if someone else can't pull up their own self by their boot straps. It boils down to survival of the fittest in the end.

You don't like it? Sorry. While your idea is certainly based out of good intention, this ain't Jonestown.

 

That's what they do with the insane. There is no reason we cannot teach our children.

 

Do you mind expounding? That's a bit cryptic for me right now.

 

To become institutionalized is something that happens to the insane. We don't need mandated educational systems. Such things as learning more about life than living with parents and society can teach could be available to those with a thirst for knowledge. Many disparities arise simply because we try to stuff things into people they are not vitally interested in. There is no requirement for a teacher to teach, they do it from compassion for the illiterate.

 

There's two completely different meanings for that word and your mixing them up.

1. To be placed and held in an institution. This tends to be the medical use.

2. To be made consistent throughout an institution. This is usually the educational use like, they institutionalised critical literacy. Or negatively, such as 'institutionalised racism.'

I'm not sure of all my phrasing so if someone needs to correct me please do. But as far as I can tell, you are definately conflating two separate meanings.

 

Agreed, working hard is a waste of time and energy.

 

Actually those are two complementary meanings not two different meanings. The word means the same thing in both instances.

1. We are placed in school and held there for the appropriate time the reason being it contributes to our well being.

2. We are all given the same lessons and tests to be made consistent in programing.

I am not trying to define the word institution but point out similarities in how we are dealing with growth and development through institutionalization, anything dealing with the emergence of the mind.

 

Ok, you're just going to argue the pedantic point so you can feel correct. Go for it.

 

For every action there is an equal and complementary reaction. What waste? That is like saying playing hard is a waste of time and energy. Whereas you may find it personally rewarding to give little thinking you would rather conserve yourself that is your personal investment and has nothing to do with being efficient. Work and play are identical physical activities their difference being in your level of acceptance or resistance to the activity. Hard work is a waste of time and energy only if you insist on being lazy. Challenging gravity builds strength and dexterity and is why we play.

 

Pedantic, overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, You are challenging my statement because you don't think the form is appropriate. It is not my effort to feel correct but to share information, thoughts. I am not trying to make you seem incorrect. Do you have something to say on the subject of education?

 

Sure. I find your habit of making words mean whatever you find it convenient for them to mean grating though.

I think that we focus too much on making children scared of mistakes and too little on encouraging then to find their passions.

We listen too much to industry demands and too little to education professionals.

We should pay teachers on par with other professionals, and hold them to similar standards. We should be able to attract enough teachers that we only have to employ the best.

 

There is no accounting for taste. Some appreciate what I say, some don't. I would point out that grating is a phenomena of your own nervous systems interpretive response to stimulus and does not originate with me.

I agree. I was fortunate to have an adult figure who appealed to my good sense as way of instruction rather than punishment and reward.

This is part and parcel of the dilemma of the institutionalization of emergent processes.

Standardization is important if you are taking measurements as you want your metric to have consistent value throughout. Personal inspiration transcends remuneration as a motivator.