christianity is a dead end

Very true. I made a post about it. I found a good website that will explain evolution basically, but accurately, and clear up many misconceptions about it.

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117441

That's my post. I strongly suggest it to be read.

 

Excellent thread, Burn. Excellent!

The majority of the opponents of evolution have no idea what it truly is. They just want to believe the apologetic dogma spewed to them by religious propagandists...and it shows...without EVER looking into themselves.

THINK FOR YOURSELF -- QUESTION AUTHORITY!

 

Whoa sistah! I don't just get to call myself doctor! I'm working my butt off right now in this process of getting a doctorate, and believe me, if I could just call myself doctor, it would be less costly and much less time-consuming!

I believe in evolution; I also believe that God is a power; the thing that is greater than all things that can be imagined or worked out by even the smartest, or most faithful, human being.

 

You can and people do.

And Fuzzy is referring to the "Doctors" of theology and other fantasy-based degrees.

 

????? Me too. Doctors of theology are real doctorate degrees...if they're from accredited institutions.

There are just as many church leaders and faith leaders healing people as doctors. I'm amazed at the love I see every day in society...from believers and non-believers. I'm also shocked at the evil and violence. I thank God for all the people working to have positive influence in the world.

 

Here here

 

heh heh ... wooooooooooo!

 

o there are? have statistics? (would there even be statistics on people "healed"? ) or are you talking about spiritual healing?

 

yea. spiritual healing. I'm just sticking up for the believers here. I get tired of reading about how terrible Christians are when I see so many more Christians doing good work in real life vs. the Christians I see on tv (including GW). I don't pay much mind to CBN, and tele-evangelists, or the people that think constitutional rights means Christianity in disguise....

 

are you trying to say spiritual healing is a science?

 

You mean the "Christians" you see on tv, hosting shows with thousands of paying audience members as they make them believe they can be healed by the power of the Lowd?

The one total goofball's name escapes me...he has a real defined southern accent

 

I was trying to say that I believe my work as a church leader will cause effect in people's lives as much as a doctor...I was reacting to the insinuation that a doctor of theology is somehow less commendable than a doctor of science. Obviously they're in different fields, but both have the potential to change lives.

 

I'm talking about spiritual healing; healing of the soul, not the biological physical body persay.

 

i was once watching his advertisment a the same time i was watching that Kevin Trudeau guy spout off about homeopathic "cures" for cancer...ahhh, i liked being able to sit around at 3 in the morning

but yeah, it struck me as odd as to how similar the two guys were, and how similar their ad's were

 

in Popoff's defense, at least his "miracle water" is free [for the time being]...the Trudeau guy is a former used car's salesman who used the credit card numbers of clients to steal money from them or somethign...


but then again...wasn't Popoff PROVED to be a fraud with an ear piece, and his wife was telling him all those things about the sick people who went to go see him, or was that some other guy?

 

you could say that all religions are "dead ends" in the long run, because believing something to be the absolute truth is the end of learning about that thing, and the all of things is vast beyound the understanding of mear mortels

 

says who...at the Christain school my friend attended, they learned about other faiths, including Buddism and such

dangit, its not letting me post for some reason

 

It's because you're so damn profound Burbot. The forum doesn't think we can handle you :H

 

The wording for the Red Sea is the same as the wording that states that Solomon built his navy on the Red Sea. Do you think Solomon, with all his wisdom, would build his navy in 2 feet of water? I don't think so. Nice try anyway.

 

Just because the events and context of a religious text can be uncovered in the physical world doesn't necessarily prove what was said to be literal. There are symbols and metaphors and all sorts of things added to stories over time. I don't see why the Bible would be any different.

And, hypothetically, (I'm just going for some consistency here), don't you think that if God was so active with the people of the Old Testament, that he'd be more active throughout modern times as well? Catholics will say Mary visited them, etc. But, it seems like God took a step back after the Old Testament. No more iron-hard justice, no more violence, flooding the Earth, etc.

But, wait a second....

Many things have happened during our times. Yes? Things easily explainable as natural, scientific events. Thousands of years ago they didn't have explanations for floods. They didn't have explanations for plagues. So, like many ancient religions, they decided the cause was from higher powers. What a shocker.

And how did they write about it in their religious texts? "God brought a flood upon the Earth." Logically, they must have thought God was upset with us. So they wrote that too.

If there is a way to prove there was a flood around the time described in the Bible, it no more proves the Bible as a literal factual text than before. However, it proves it is consitent with historical and scientific events on Earth, but with the culture's own attitude and perception of what had happened.