Christianity: "Over and Done"

It's probably a way of seeking to de-value you and what you say - a veiled form of insult.

 

So - I'm not the only one to reach this conclusion.

People like Identikit are actually about the worst advert c/anity could get. Petty and personal insults combined with a seeming total lack of understanding even of xian dictrine.

It's not the way to reprazent. If I were Jesus, I'd tell such persons to shut the fuck up.

 

Darrell I'm sorry about the misspelling, and I'm not the other person. I have a hard enought time with my own posts. And I'm not trying to have a dual personality. And Darrell I have to tell you, there is a God. And thats my perspective, just like I might tell you I own a Jeep. It's that clear to me.

 

Darrell.
Two 'Rs' and two 'Ls'.
Ive never seen that spelling before.
Its one of those names that is always different it seems, Daryl, Darryl, Derril, not to mention Dereks and Derrens.
You wouldnt know this but I mentally pronounce your name Da' ryl (kids in the hall reference.
After all its nearly impossible when you meet an aspiring Buddhist named 'Darrell'.

Otherwise, Campbell and I have entirely different writing and explanatory styles and Im slightly amazed someone would think we were Ghost-nics of one another.

 

For once I can agree with you ... I just hope you fully understand what you are saying. Because it's not the perspective of some other people. And you give cause, or become a causal factor, for the suffering of other people when you try to PUSH your perspective onto others as if they HAVE to see or perceive reality ther way you do.

No one HAS to perceive things the way you do, and when someone tells you to stop, the best thing to do is stop. Your belief in Jesus or God did not include forcing yourself on others ... and again I use the similie of a rapist who, at the request of the victim to stop keeps on, or he kills the victim until he gets what he wants.

When one plants a seed, they don't use a hammer to push the seed under the ground.

When one waters a planted seed, they don't cover it with a lake.

If you think, or even feel that your incessant "preaching" (for lack of a better word) has planted a seed, then back off and let it grow rather than smashing it to "smithereens". If it so happens you planted it on rocky soil, or even concrete, then the seed dies and you move on ... too bad there's no such similie in your bible about planting seeds ... if there were, then it's obvious you probably fail to understand its meaning, or else you may have a total disregard for parts of your bible you appear to fail to comprehend.

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I'm not amazed ... it happens on this forum all the time.

Don't believe me? Ask other moderators. Matter-of-fact ... ask Skip.

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If I was walking down a street and saw a home on fire, I could say that's just my perspective and let those inside die. Yet even if it were my perspective I would act on it, and I would do all that I could to save those inside. It's doubtful if someone told me to stop while there was still a chance of saving someone that I would listen to them. Jesus said the fields are white unto harvest where are the reapers? It is Jesus Christ who tells us to seek and find the lost. Christians are not here to rape anyone, we are here to save the lost from the fires of Hell. And that includes you Darrell. You just don't see the danger from your prespective. Yet without Christ, the danger is very real. This post is fluid, people come and go all the time. I will stay here as they pass by, and perhaps, if even one considers the truth of the Scriptures. And if in my whole life I only save one, then it will all be worth it.

 

Skip might have a second screenname (may i sugggest Ellis D Tripp) but thats arguably ethical in that he can posts 'as a member' and not carry the Admin bias with him.

Im well aware that many people carry on two or more different 'characters' however I have no need or want to do this.
Im also aware that some members are banned for their opinions and return later with new screennames.

Still, alot of your 'suspicion' comes from a bias you have and the worldviews you live among.
If Im a Creationist then you must believe that Im so wrong, so crazy, so abberant that - if someone else also holds the same opinion it simply 'must' be the same person.
After all... there is no way (in your mind) that two people could possibly believe in this Christainity stuff right?

I see the 'ghost nic/same person' accusation leveled against 'conservative' or 'christian' posters alot.
I dont mean in this forum but on the internets in general.

 

We humans don't need much proof that fire exists-it manifests constantly.A god has not manifested enough to be taken for granted ,as has fire.Your analogy is faulty.

 

Now you're just being silly ...

Save me from what? I don't believe in hell. Why save me from something I don't believe in. Your reasoning is rather stupid ... and sickeningly dangerous. If by that statement above you mean to be saying that it's your intention to be harrassing me on this forum, I can put a stop to that myself.

Now you're presuming to be me. How can you know how I perceive? You don't see with my eyes, you dont hear with my ears, you dont smell with my nose, you dont taste with my tongue, you dont feel with my body, you dont think with my mind. Again, you're just being silly. Grasping at shadows.

So you not only presume to be me, but you also presume to be your god. It's you who will save them right? That's what you said ... "And if ... I only save one". If it's not what you meant you shouldn't have written the way you did. Yet you write what you believe in right. So you must believe you are your god who is capable of saving people from ... from ... what?

Far as I can perceive, this is delusional thinking. Sickeningly dangerous. Grasping. Faulty reasoning.

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The rest of the argument/dialogue is between you two. However, you have stated that his reasoning is faulty. Please demonstrate how he has violated the principles of logic or used a logically invalid form of argument.

Just one more thing... just because you cannot perceive or refuse to believe in something has no bearing on the reality of the thing. You can't see my monitor, my house, or any type representation of me yet I assure you, I exist even though you cannot perceive me. Such is the nature of reality. If Hell actually exists, then your disbelief has little bearing on the threat of it. Like a bus hitting you while you are asleep. You weren't aware of the bus and it was completely beyond your perceptions/ability to believe, yet you still go splat, just the same.

 

Yet you have been perceived, ergo this response, making your entire argument specious. However, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is real, and just because you can't see him, doesn't mean he won't fry your ass for not believing. That's because he is a total asshole. Too bad for you. See you in Ragoo Hell, heathen.

 

You are a fool, Alsharad.

Just because you don't believe you are not, doesn't mean it isn't so and doesn't affect the bearing of it on reality, or the reality of the fact that you are a fool.

You posit an argument for the sake of arguing. A fools game. A game only fools will play. Not me.

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Darrell when I talk about pulling people from a burning building you say I'm just being silly, well Darrell, back in 1973 I have heard demons speak of Hell, and they were not laughing. Many people have died from from things they have not seen or heard, there preception was like yours. They did not believe in it, yet their belief did not prevent their death. Hell is the same way Darrell, Hell will be there even if you donot believe in it now, you will believe in it then.

Darrell, when I say I saved someone, I save them, by telling them about the Salvation that can be found in Jesus Christ. Only someone going out of their way to put words in my mouth would conclude anything else.

And my intention is not to be harrassing you, if you choose to reject Christ and end up for eternity in Hell, thats your choice. And now I see you were not satisfied to toss me out of the Buddhism forum, now you are trying to threaten me here on the Christian fourm. Please donot come here dressed in your priestly robes pretending to be a man who is open minded and tolerant. You have about as much tolerance as a pitbull, and when your failed logic fails to convince me to think as you do, then you come here with your threats. And for me, thats about as far as you got in quest for truth. Jesus Christ is the God of Gods and Lord of Lords Darrell, what you do with Him is up to you, but remember eternity is a long time Darrell, choose wisely.

 

Darrell, just because you come here in your orange priestly robe and complain that others are not tolerant like you, doesen't give you the right to call others fools. Darrell, your giving Buddhism a bad name. Your threats, and your slander of Alsharad speaks volumes about your kind of religion.

 

Really now? Then I suppose you'd say Buddha gave Buddhism a bad name also. He called people fools when they warranted it ... just like Alsharad.

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DarrellK seriously you really do need to knock it off with the insults and wierd 'guru voice' nonsense when you dont know how to respond or carry through the argument at hand.

Its almost as bad as Spaghetti Monster up there.
Well.. almost.

 

Darrel--

I'm completely open with discussing christianity with people from all walks of life on these forums. However, in this situation I feel that we are no longer discussing christianity or buddhism or anything really. This conversation has disintegrated into petty bickering on both sides. I know campbell can be pretty extreme in his views, but I'm sadly used to that with christians. I was hoping a buddhist would recognize the middle path (a buddhist concept I still embrace), and not only recognize it, but utilize it--in this case, not getting all worked up over a defunct debate. You will never change campbell's views, at least not over the internet, and he will most certainly never change yours.

If the two of you (and why do I feel like a parent here?) insist on continuing the name calling...er, sorry, "debate," would you mind moving it to PM mode?

Thanks.

-Kate

 

Jesus Christ tells us in Matthew 5:22 that if you call a man a fool, you are in danger of Hell fire. Yet I guess if Buddha tells you it's all right to call people fools you got to do what Buddha tells you. Now lets see who fulfilled the 300 prophecies of the Old Testament? Was it Buddha? Oh yeah that's right, it was Jesus Christ, sorry Darrell, I think I will do what Jesus tells us to. And Jesus tells us not to call people fools. Now the Bible does say that the fool in his heart will say there is no God. Darrell, do you believe in God?